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Renault 4

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭fafy


    looks like a very practical EV, not many in this space, only 4.16 meters long, but has good height at 1.57 meters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭derekreilly


    I had a poke around in it today at the motor show in Paris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭fafy


    This UK car review, says RHD models, won’t get the front seat “fold flat” feature,

    Its would have been a handy and practical option having that feature, even for non surfers.
    https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/first-official-pictures/renault/4-ev/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    The car would need to be considerably cheaper than a Skoda Elroq to win customers. The Elroq is a shrunk Enyaq while this is an oversized Renault 5.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,313 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    No it would not. The 4 has something the Elroq will not have for a long time and that is a legacy and a history as well as an actual logo on it unlike new Skodas.

    TlThe new Renault 5 is an excellent car that has recieved rave reviews so nothing wrong with being based on the same platform as that at all.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    It is a cheaper platform. It won't be as refined and the Elroq has the same wheelbase as an Enyaq so it is quite large.

    20 cm longer wheelbase than a Renault 4.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,313 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I doubt either of them platforms are in anyway cheap.

    Refined lol. You know these are electric cars right. They will both be very refined. Anyway I know which one I would prefer to have. You can have the dull no logo Skoda if you want I will take a 4 anyday over that. I do not need the extra space of the Elroq.

    Post edited by AMKC on

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    There is no objective metric on which the Renault 4 will beat the Elroq. It had better be cheap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,313 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yes there it. The 4 will have a better user interface and physical controls for the HVAC controls unlike the Elroq so the 4 will be the safer car to drive too.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    The Renault 4 is built on the "Ampere Small" which is a budget platform. Elroq is built on MEB platform which is the mainstream EV platform for VAG mainstream product. It also has backlit buttons on screen and dedicated HVAC control always visible on screen. VAG version 4 software is excellent. You have been reading reports about VAG software from 4 years ago. The renault 4 really needs to be considerably cheaper than an Elroq to be considered.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,313 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I did not read any reports about any VW software but you yourself just said it. HVAC controls for the Elroq are in the touchscreen which means if the driver wants to turn up the heat or the speed etc they have to use a touchscreen but not in the 4. Anyway I am done arguing with you. You are obviously VW mad. Can not say that I envey you.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    I think you will have to do a side by side comparisson before placing an order because the Elroq is a class higher than a Renault 4. I hope the truth dawns before you put money down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭freddieot


    As someone who was driving Renault in the 70s and 80s, I would not put any value on their legacy and history. TBH, they would be better off keeping quiet about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I don't think AMKC has a driver's license? Apologies if I'm mixing them up with someone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,953 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Walter Mitty so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Had a quick look today, driving it in Portugal in a few weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭fafy


    The R4 is already up for configuration on renault.fr, the entry level trim (bigger 52kw battery) R4, is the same price as the entry level trim - bigger 52kw battery) R5, €31.5k, but the R4 is 2k more(€28k) than the R5, for the entry level trlm - smaller 40kw battery.(€26k)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭fafy


    Now On show, from today in Dundrum Town Centre:

    https://www.completecar.ie/car-news/article/13994/Renault-4-E-Tech-makes-its-Irish-debut



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,827 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Is the R4 essentially an estate version of the R5? ie that the passenger space in R4 similar to R5 or is it roomier inside too?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭MarkN


    A bigger boot is about it IMO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,313 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    And more leg room in the rear seats accirding to that article posted above.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    You do know MarkN has actually seen the car in person and reviews cars for a living?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭MarkN


    there’s the comparison there, same platform but slightly more room. In real world terms though, boot is an obvious increase whereas to my eye the rear legroom doesn’t seem like a huge difference.


    IMG_3320.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,313 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yes I do. I was just saying whst the article says.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,313 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    With the 4 being lighter than the 5 it would not surprise me if it drove better but I think the 5 is supposed to be very good anyway so it's will really be down to ones preference. Personally I love the 4. Love the 5 too but just love the 4 more :) .

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭derekreilly


    In Portugal at the media drive. Here are some colour options in the flesh with optional trim stickers etc

    1000036388.jpg 1000036439.jpg 1000036440.jpg 1000036435.jpg 1000036433.jpg 1000036434.jpg 1000036437.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭fafy


    Driving reviews starting to come in from Portugal:

    https://youtu.be/7BugKhsgnxY?si=w2fLTp_0SXF9PpTx



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,313 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Here is another and a great review it is too,

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,681 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    there's no 'legacy' to the new 4; it looks nothing like the old one. the only thing in common is the name.



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