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Is a leadership qualification essential nowadays for management roles?

  • 03-10-2024 10:20am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48


    Hi all,

    Is a leadership qualification (e.g. PDSL, MEd in leadership/management etc.) almost a necessity nowadays for management roles in schools? Especially deputy principal and principal roles?

    Or does it differ from sector, e.g. primary/post primary?

    I'd greatly appreciate any thoughts/opinions on this topic.

    TIA



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,143 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    what do the adverts say? a requirement or nice to have?

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    I've definitely seen people get primary principal roles without one. Esp if they're willing to take on one of the roles where you're teaching and principal at same time. And also people get AP1/AP2 without them. Last person I know who got principal of a secondary school was over 5 years ago. Didn't have a qualification like that, but had a somewhat related masters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭DubLad69


    Depends on the school and circumstances. Some schools require a post grad qualification to shortlist candidates. However, if you are internal candidate you will get an interview regardless and will often be chosen ahead of those with the qualifications.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭pandoraj09


    Definitely not true unfortunately. I was the msot senior teacher in the school and didn't get shortlisted or callled for interview. The position went to an outsider in their 20s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭DubLad69


    I actually find that shocking! You may not have been the best candidate this time around, but out of respect for your experience and service in the school they should have shortlisted you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭pandoraj09


    Yes, 34 years there. It was a huge slap in the face for me. I was the most senior teacher and had an AP1. served on the BOM for two terms. Two young men appointed in their early 30s. I stayed for a coupe more years then retired once I had the 33 years done. Both the young men have since moved to other schools.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,242 ✭✭✭amacca


    That'll come back to bite in the end....very bad form imo.....if the system insists on that it'll breed mercenaries...…."community" of learning eh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭ethical


    Rotten to the core and really it makes no difference whither its the ETB or Secondary Schools. The next minister for education should disband ETBs with immediate affect.The only country in the World that thinks its OK to treat valuable staff like sh1t. As others say it will come back to bite them but sure then it will be too late.The 'system' is falling apart as it is and feckin Norma is making molehills out of 'non matters' and not bothering with the things that matter. The problem with teaching presently is that there is nothing for the teachers that actually teach,its all mé féin,mé féin and more mé féin and fcuk the rest of ye kind of attitude.



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