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Sculling cattle prices

  • 26-08-2024 8:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭


    How much these days do you get charged to scull (cut both horns off) a larger then 300kg + animal in Ireland?? Interested to hear from you all, the difference in prices.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Gilroy


    Any ideas 💡



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Sculling cattle is illegal in Ireland and can only be done by your Vet. So best advice is to contact your Vet for costs/charges.

    Edit - I've just edited this post to link our resident Vet who will have more knowledge than me.

    Link @greysides



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Gilroy


    The vets I know would rather not do this job and allow responsible equipped farmer with the skill do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    What has the price got to do with it so? The vets won't do it so who are you going to be paying?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,372 ✭✭✭893bet


    are you sure it’s illegal? Or just a legal requirement to ensure a competent person does it and uses required local anaesthetic and pain relief etc.

    Vet did our last one when he was here anyway for TB test.
    Think he charged 8 euro (and hardly waited for the local to take effect). Hate it as a job. Debudding so much easier.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    The Vet uses a stronger anaesthetic- it's not available on prescription.

    Has there been a change in rules re marketing cattle with horns, I see some going through the marts on LSL.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    I hate the thoughts of sculling with a passion.. its unnecessary cruelty on man and beast. Also makes cattle wild and nervous.

    If I miss one for de budding which does happen with limos I let them go as they will be going to the factory anyway. There is a lad from over near Mullingar does this type of work, think he charges around €50 for call out that covers first 1 or 2 then €5 a head after that.

    Post edited by Anto_Meath on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭locha


    We did enough of it years ago… awful job. Seen la forge farm video about a year or so ago where he had his angle grinder modified to do it… some job. Done in a mili- second. No stress on man … can’t vouch for the beast…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Gilroy


    Price has alot to do with it these days, if its saving a few pounds. I'd rather have it then not have it in my pocket. Thanks for the comment 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I saw one of these being used on a farm, it's so quick that the operator didn't even have to hold the beast it went through the horn so quick.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/JUYICAI-Electric-Temperature-Resistance-Veterinary/dp/B09XN38Z4G/ref=asc_df_B09XN38Z4G/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=697230221025&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7983614468662799159&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20495&hvtargid=pla-1969874875821&psc=1&mcid=fadcf9801f283479b4039fca7ccd368f&gad_source=1



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I don't know if it's illegal but afaik you need a Vet to scull nowdays.

    TBH I've probably sculled & squeezed more cattle in my lifetime than most reading this thread - I always used Lidocane & Adrenaline mix - we used to buy it in 500ml bottles from the Vet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    same here. Used to be a regular thing years ago and by Jesus I hated it.
    I missed one of the calves this year and thinking I’ll just take off a bit of the horns with the wire next spring (without cutting him). He’ll be going to the factory anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭morphy87


    This year when I was dehorning Calfs I used an anestic, great job, the Calfs were very relaxed when dehorning them, I will use it from now on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭Who2


    it’s usually me that needs an anesthetic while dehorning calves.
    I’ve one of the condron crates and I put brackets onto it to take sheep gates. It’s a simple thing but I’d far less fighting getting them into the crate.
    I don’t agree with skulling but I use the pipes when I do miss one and find they are fairly easy once the animal is well restrained. If I’ve no one to help I put a halter on and will put a tight stretch and it makes life simple. It’s slow if you’ve a few but thankfully I rarely need to do it the last few years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    Jesus I used to hate this. I always felt my father waited till the wettest autumn day, as close to selling the weanlings as he could get away with, and then decide to do them. Dehorning 15/16 300kg weanlings could take most of the day as something would always go wrong. It was just pure misery for man and beast and feckin needless as well. Pickin the veins out with the scissors, using the cord to tighten around the forehead, everyone covered in blood…. God bless the crate!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,044 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Dangerous having stock with horns.

    Had a cow that missed dehorning as she was a small calf. She grew up to be a bully then. Other cows you'd hear a pain roar in the winter time in the shed as you'd know she was sticking them in their sides. Was calving a cow in the loose shed and a black cow came up to investigate and the calving cow took fright as she thought it was the cow with horns. The horns were taken off and all the stock became calmer in the place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭Gilroy


    Thanks lads, but do you remember from all that work, what price per head was paid? 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭148multi


    Don'tknow the price, but am sure it's considered a vetinery procedure.

    One old lad here used to let vets do it with herd test, young vet arrived out and swore it'll never happen again, now the vet arrives out end of April and dehorns all the calves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Dunno price but 50 call out and few pound a beast, cash, at the most. Plenty boys at it.



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