JNLR 2024-1

chilloutrelax

My guess is that the JNLR 2024-1 will be released on Wednesday and public on Thursday.

It will be interesting to see if Ryan Tubridy’s show on Q102 will have much of an impact on their numbers.

chilloutrelax

I can see from the IPSOS website that the stations got their results at 10am today and they will publish them tomorrow; usually it’s at 12pm.

https://info.ipsosmrbi.com/jnlr

Shan Doras

Connell O'Moran had a good article about these things a few months ago, a really good question he asked is how many people would even answer the door to a stranger nowadays let alone engage with them about a radio survey. https://archive.ph/WLm3l

dxhound2005

Have a look at the methodology, and you will see that his article is nonsense. Nobody goes to anyone's door. This was all covered in the JNLR is Nonsense thread when the article came out.

https://info.ipsosmrbi.com/jnlr/methodology#:~:text=The%20JNLR%20delivers%20average%20daily,demographic%20groups%20for%20all%20stations.

Shan Doras

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122141814#Comment_122141814

They do call door to door

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122141814#Comment_122141814

You didn't read the methodology then, I see.

Its door to door and based on a semi-prompted recall basis of the past week.

Tork

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122141814#Comment_122141814

A JNLR pollster (or whatever you call them) called to my house 2-3 years ago. I can't remember exactly when but we had the conversation out on the driveway because Covid was still a thing.

dxhound2005

I got that wrong.

Expunge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122143507#Comment_122143507

You are like a Unicorn, my friend.

Can you tell us any more about the encounter, by any chance?

EmmetSpiceland

Out of curiosity, if a JLNR representative called to the door of someone who hates Ryan Tubridy, but hate-listens to his show, would that person say they don’t listen?

Is there a “hate-listener” category?

Shan Doras

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122144375#Comment_122144375

No, the jnlr person gives you an notebook and you just write down in that notebook every station/show you've listened to for 15 minutes or longer

Expunge

Rajars out today in the UK also!

And a big change now happening as ONline listening overtakes FM and AM (analogue) listening, for the first time.

The Smart Speaker is becoming the boss!

https://radiotoday.co.uk/2024/05/online-overtakes-fm-and-am-radio-listening-for-the-first-time-in-the-latest-rajar-listening-figures/

Shan Doras

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122144776#Comment_122144776

The Brits figures look even more inflated than our own

Expunge

It's past midday. Let the spin begin!

https://radiotoday.ie/2024/05/newstalk-celebrates-record-audience-for-the-pat-kenny-show-in-latest-jnlr-results/

Tork

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122143941#Comment_122143941

I would if you weren't being a sarcastic smartass.

Expunge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122144982#Comment_122144982

That wasn't my intention. I have never, ever heard from a JNLR interviewee before. That's all.

Shan Doras

I noticed the last few years with the cosy consensus that's amongst traditional media outlets now that the "everyone's a winner" mantra on jnlr day has gone to the extreme, for example you won't find anyone in the media these days pointing out Jen Z on 2fm is 100k behind Dave Moore but back in the day, Ian Dempsey overtaking 2fm breakfast by 5k or whatever was front page news. Indeed when there was a suggestion last year about selling 2fm, a lot of Journalists started staunchly defending it Twitter, which says it all really

Tork

One striking thing about the time I was asked the JNLR questions, was that there was nothing about online stations. During the pandemic I mostly listened to RTE Gold and when I said that to her, she didn't seem to be familiar with it at all.

Shan Doras

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122145187#Comment_122145187

Well It's only stations who pay to take part that they are interested in, RTE Gold doesn't take part as it doesn't have any ads, but it's also the case that listening via modern devices like smartspeakers & smartphones etc hasn't shown up very much at all here whereas it has in a big way over in the uk in their RAJARs, so perhaps the questionire here is very outdated?

leath_dub

It's always all positive 😁

RoTelly

Game On gets 37,000 listeners the previous quarter it had 32,000, is this the first time this figure has been released? Similar audience to Lorcan Murray’s Classic Drive, though that is a 3 hour show.

Off the Ball has 49k though on an hour later and a 2 hour show.

chilloutrelax

The Dublin station market is interesting and continues to flux at the top between Spin and FM104 and then it depends on whether market share or overall listeners counts more.

The most shocking part is to see 98fm with the lowest market share and daily listeners. Hard to believe this with all of its history.

bureau2009

Any feedback on Tubridy's UK listenership?

Also his listenership here?

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146119#Comment_122146119

neither report from what I can see. Almost all of this is spin for the radio stations.

hotmail.com

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146105#Comment_122146105

Something not quite right with the 98FM DJs.

KildareP

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146105#Comment_122146105

98FM still doesn't seem to know what it wants to be.

You'll have a string of dance-oriented tracks and then some dodgy R&B track gets thrown in.

There's also far too much talking pre-1PM.

JVince

Increased listeners can mean a "fall" too as the population is growing. Over the past 5 years the average population growth is 80,000 mixed between natural more births than deaths, less emigration, more immigration and more Irish emigrants returning home.

So if a program show no change, it has lost share.

The public and even the newspapers only get the shortened version. The actual "Book" is extremely comprehensive and gives estimates of actual number of listeners by every age and social demographic for every 15 minutes of broadcasting for each individual station.

But just like car mpg, TV viewership and newspaper readership (did an average of 3.2 people really read every newspaper purchased - that was the figure in the 90's), it is inflated, but it does give trends.

For Dublin, Nova seems to be on a continued upwards trajectory, whilst 98fm seems to be on a continuous downward spiral.

Declan A Walsh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122147933#Comment_122147933

I was just thinking about that last statement on the relative trajectories of Radio Nova and 98FM. It reminded me of the number of ex-98FM presenters currently with Radio Nova. They include Jim McCabe, Marty Miller, Dee Woods, Pat Courtenay, Greg Gaughren, Matt Dempsey and Andy Clarke.

Shan Doras

I think 98fm has just been squeezed out by the way so many stations are doing the same thing & the changing demographics of radio listeners, 20 years ago Spin1038 was a teen radio station, today it's audience are probably late 20s to mid 30s which would have been 98s age bracket back then.

Declan A Walsh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122148181#Comment_122148181

Also, the audience of the "Classic Hits" days of 98FM (1989 to about 1991 or 1992) are now more likely to be listening to Radio Nova, Classic Hits or even Sunshine 106.8. So, arguably, 98FM has an identity crisis with all the other music-driven radio stations covering most age groups.

Infoanon

Classic Hits is its original incarnation has no equivalent on the FM band today IMHO.

RTE Gold is the closest , so there is a potential audience for 98 , but in its current guise its rudderless.

To say 98FM has an identity crisis is an understatement ,' rip it up and start again' as the song goes might be the best step , it's dwindling audience figures are unsustainable.

Novas upward trajectory has a lot to do with younger people no longer listening to FM radio and Nova having a playlist that fits the needs of the more mature audience , that simple tweek to Breakfast has worked a treat!

nonetheless

You could say that 98FM is a shining example of what can go wrong with a radio station from a programming perspective - it's a shadow of it's former self. It needs to either go back to go forward or it needs to offer something that is not being heard in the Dublin market. Either way it needs a reboot and format flip. If they decide to go back they need to implement the Classic Hits AC type format aggressively with familiar and recognisable presenters. The problem is that it's not 1989 and many radio stations since then have adopted a similar approach. Nova/CH 4FM have taken much of those potential Classic Hits 98FM listeners. If they were to decide to go forward? Maybe they should consider going super aggressive American style Hot/AC.

KildareP

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122149062#Comment_122149062

I suspect it's trying to chase the Pulse 103 audience who'd be all north of 35+ now while Spin is catching the post-Pulse 103 audience which is on the lower end of that.

Which, in fairness, Dublin has never really had a truly (legal) dance oriented station. I remember all the build-up to the "dance license" and the massive disappointment expressed here and on other forums when Spin 1038 got it instead. 98FM's playlist shift over the last 18-24 months has most certainly pivoted towards dance.

But it's like you have two 98FM's - the pre-1PM and the post-1PM. I find the pre-1PM has just too much talk and inane waffle and by the time 1PM comes along I've switched away…

nonetheless

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122149475#Comment_122149475

Radio 2000 or 98FM was one of the first radio licences awarded back in 1989 and in fairness using the word successful is an understatement on my part. I would of always expected that franchise to remain within somewhat of a mainstream MOR/AC type presentation or flipping to Top 40 CHR at some point along the way. During the late '90s it started to lose its way and was unable to respond to changes and gains made by FM104 etc. Now it has no real identity and to be honest if I were programming it and looking at those JNLR's, I would be embarrassed. Nothing against folks who want a dance orientated radio station but I think 98FM belongs in the mainstream. The question for me is how well can they do mainstream? Apart from the Classic Hits days that radio station hasn't really performed.

hotmail.com

The cringey and uninteresting comments from the 98 FM DJs makes it difficult to listen to.

Are they trying to be cool? It's not working.

Shan Doras

Is there any data on foreigners in the country listening to FM radio or engaging with the jnlrs ?As I've mentioned in the Tubridy thread, the listenership numbers for the individual shows on RTE Radio 1 were broadly the same 15/20 years ago