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Homebase Ireland makes 1 Million Loss

  • 18-04-2024 7:25pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21


    Just read Homebase Ireland made a 1 Million Loss will probably follow same fate as argos soon



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    The loss seems to be due to exceptional costs, Covid assistance repayment and fixed asset impermeant. I wouldn't write them off just yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭JVince


    B&Q are in the midst of agreeing to purchase the Irish stores.

    No overlap except possibly Waterford.

    Deal should be announced soon ( it was reported and b&q mentioned it in a stock market filing).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    The stock-levels and general state of the place in Homebase Nutgrove was shocking bad the last two times that I was there. Gaps on every shelf and pallets of not much rammed everywhere. I wasn't impressed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Markd518


    Oh didn't realise that, I take it they would just rebrand to b&q rather than keep the homebase brand ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,186 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Not surprised at that, more so that they've lasted this long here, it's just never really resonated with the public here for whatever reason.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭JVince


    Yep, full rebrand. Homebase brand has no value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭SVI40


    Over priced place. Some of their offerings were 20% more expensive than Woodies, who are expensive as it is.



  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    An article I found on The Times about it.

    Today, I learned that B&Q and Screwfix are under the one umbrella, Kingfisher.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/homebase-may-disappear-from-ireland-as-kingfisher-circles-xzzgdvnsl



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Markd518


    They would have a good share of the DIY market if they buy the homebase stores then .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Kingfisher is big..really big. Owning Castorama in France and other countries.

    Homebase was competitive at one stage. Loosing it won't do anything for competition in this sector.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,657 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Brexit related issues I’d say are not being kind to U.K. based retailers operating here. The paperwork to avoid tariffs and customs charges must be quite onerous. Most of their stuff is likely made in the far east and imported to the U.K. and distribution from there to here. How does that work in avoiding rules of origin issues? I assume it means they need a much bigger entity based here or in the EU



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I find it a bit on the expensive side myself, but I do use Homebase a lot because it has so much under the one roof. There probably isn’t to many Saturdays I’m not in there picking up garden/home stuff. I really hope they don’t downsize and start closing stores.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭JVince


    Looks like this could be agreed in the next few weeks.

    Homebase UK is on the sale block.

    The Range is favourite to buy the UK business. They could buy the Irish part too, but B&Q are the most likely.

    Expect a massive clearance sale soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,849 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I hope The Range buy it here too that way it stays seperate from B&Q, Screwfix etc.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭JVince


    I've been to The Range once - found it to be an appalling store. Can't understand how it does well.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    BandQ are an entirely better store so hopefully it will drag up the Homebase Stores.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭riddles


    the amount of waste on plants must be shocking - a hose right beside them and no one waters them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,102 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    Isn't Brexit great!

    Absolute gobshites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭JVince


    Nothing whatsoever to do with brexit. Hilco are an investment company. They buy failing retail names, try and build them up and then sell for a profit.

    They bought Homebase for £1. The rumoured sale price is close to £100m

    Nice return.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Markd518


    Looks more likely b and q to buy the Irish stores I'd say. Carpet Right in trouble too on the verge of administration in the UK another one bites the dust



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭JVince


    Original owner will take it in a prepackaged administration and close most stores.

    Carpetsh1te (as many call it) was stuck in the 90's and did not change even after an administration in 2018.

    It is way overpriced but even with gross margins of a whopping 61%, they still lost money as consumers are realising just how expensive they are.

    I remember several years ago getting a quote and a small independent local flooring guy was 30% cheaper for the identical flooring



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭SVI40


    Generally, when they buy for £1, they also take on any debt, so it may not be such a significant return.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭JVince


    They did not take on any debt. Wesfarmers booked a whopping £760m loss on the foray into the UK.

    Hilco then proceeded to close dozens of loss making stores and reverted back to what Homebase was previously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭JVince


    surprise surprise

    Deal to sell the units to B&Q fell through and Homebase have called in liquidators. They ran it into the ground. The Range might pick some up as they are taking some of the uk stores

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2024/11/13/high-court-appoints-provisional-liquidators-to-company-behind-homebase-in-ireland/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Markd518


    Just seen it can't say I'm surprised seems like the range are only interested in 70 UK stores from what I've read so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭3d4life


    Screen shot from a UK bla - bla site :



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭Pat201


    Will there be a closing down sale ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭xpletiv


    The one at Kylemore must have had 4 different closing down sales by now :D :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭jiminho


    I would have loved the Homebase in Nutgrove to be converted to a B&Q



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Markd518


    3 Stores in Ireland are up for Sale there is 6 that seem to be bought by the range they will probably be converted to the range as they have said homebase will be online only now



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