Cork City Local Elections - 7 June 2024

Brussels Sprout

The Local elections are less than 2 months away so presumably many of the candidates have been nominated and registered at this stage.

A reminder that the boundaries of Cork City were expanded just before the last election in 2019. We still have the same 5 constituencies: 3 in the south side and 2 in the north.

The councilors elected last time from each of those were:

North East

• Kenneth O'Flynn (FF) since joined the new Independent Ireland party
• John Daniel Maher (Lab)
• Ger Keohane (Ind)
• Joe Kavanagh (FG)
• Oliver Moran (GP)
• Ted Tynan (WP)

North West

• Tony Fitzgerald (FF)
• Thomas Gould (SF) since been elected to the Dail. Co-opted by Mick Nugent
• Kenneth Collins (SF)
• Damian Boylan (FG)
• John Sheehan (FF)
• Fiona Ryan (SOL-PBP) since resigned. Co-opted by Brian McCarthy

South Central

• Mick Finn (Ind)
• Dan Boyle (GP)
• Seán Martin (FF)
• Shane O'Callaghan (FG)
• Fiona Kerins (SF)
• Paudie Dineen (Ind)

South East

• Des Cahill (FG)
• Lorna Bogue (GP) since joined her own new party, An Rabharta Glas
• Mary Rose Desmond (FF)
• Terry Shannon (FF)
• Kieran McCarthy (Ind)
• Deirdre Forde (FG)

South West

• Derry Canty (FG)
• Fergal Dennehy (FF)
• Colette Finn (GP)
• Colm Kelleher (FF)
• Garret Kelleher (FG)
• Thomas Moloney (Ind)
• Henry Cremin (SF)

No idea how many of those are going to be running in June but perhaps others, more familiar, can confirm and also mention any interesting candidates that are confirmed to be running.

Brussels Sprout

Oh and Election Posters can go up from the 8th May.

MrFrisp

As far as I know, Mick Finn is not running.

opus

Going by the leaflets left in my letter box, two candidates for Cork NW are:

Louise Jordan (GP)

Michelle Gould (SF)

MrDerp

https://adriankavanaghelections.org/2024/02/20/for-those-not-about-to-rock-we-salute-you-county-and-city-councillors-who-will-be-stepping-down-at-the-2024-local-elections/#more-20716

always worth keeping an on Adrian Kavanagh’s page if you’re interested in it. The above example he’s pulled together a list of all non standing existing councillors.

Bielsa2020

it’s high time election posters were done away with. They’re all eye sores, adds to litter, not exactly environmentally friendly and do any of us actually decide who we’re voting on based on a poster?? They’re not cheap either so I’m surprised they’re still a thing.

2k9cian2k9

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122023657#Comment_122023657

I would totally agree! Same goes for the leaflets they put through the letterbox. 9 in total in over the past month of which every single one went straight into the recycling. Absolute waste of money, increases litter and refuse. My vote will be based on what the candidates actually do and deliver for the local area.

Pen Rua

Well, what’s the alternative? Not everyone is online / on X / on Facebook etc, so social media won’t get your campaign to everyone.

I know some countries on the continent have walls for pasted posters around, but idk if this is complimented with leaflet drops.

We’ve had a small handful of leaflets in. One came from a National Party or Ireland First type fella. I’m sure without coincidence it was dropped in the middle of the night when no one would have been awake to challenge them…

Hangdogroad

I came home a few weeks ago to find a leaflet from one of those "patriot" types. Not giving him any publicity but he's a convicted burglar and drug dealer with no ties to the electoral ward and the name hes running under isn't his real one.

Think the only other leaflet through the letterbox was for someone running for the Workers Party, I didn't even know they were still going.

the beer revolu

I've gotten leaflets in the door from Sin Fein and The Greens, despite having a, "no junk mail", sign. They don't seem to accept that their leaflets do not have a name or address on them, so are junkmail!

Brussels Sprout

Yeah I don't really get the disgruntlement with the posters and leaflets. The posters almost all go up and come down in the space of a month. As for the leaflets - it's hardly a great imposition to put it in the bin if you're not interested.

One of the most difficult things for candidates, especially new ones, is to gain name recognition. Mass leafletting is a sure fire way to get your name out there. Even if only 5% read it that's still going to be more efficient than pretty much any other use of resources (obviously they're also going to be door knocking, attending debates and all of the other things that are the mainstay of any campaign).

My sister isn't interested in politics but she always votes as she see's it as her civic duty. She is the archetypal floating voter. On the day of the 2020 general election I saw her spread all of the leaflets out on her kitchen table and read through them before deciding who she was going to vote for. People like her are the reason why these are still a thing.

PreCocious

A ban will suit incumbents. Annoys me to see tidy town groups force a no-poster policy. It's undemocratic (not their job, not their place) but also smacks of an agreement, by those who have seats and a profile, to keep out other candidates, especially those in smaller parties or less-established groupings.

L1011

Tidy Towns are starting to demand even larger no poster areas. Many of the individual groups across the country are politically connected so yes, there is a huge smell of trying to protect sitting candidates from it.

the beer revolu

Whatever about banning leaflet drops, they could respect, "no junk mail", signs.

@Brussels Sprout ,"As for the leaflets - it's hardly a great imposition to put it in the bin if you're not interested."

That, entirely, misses the point!

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122029120#Comment_122029120

The thing is classifying campaign leaflets as junk mail in the run-up to an election is entirely subjective. Personally I wouldn't classify that as junk mail. Clearly you would.

If you're that bothered about it, just stick a temporary note on your letterbox for the next month saying "No election material".

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122029492#Comment_122029492

Anything that doesn't have a name and address on it is junk mail. (actual local or national government notices excepted)

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122029614#Comment_122029614

In your opinion. "Junk mail" is a vague term.

If your notice instead said "No unsolicited mail" then I'd agree that they shouldn't be posting their leaflet in there but as it stands they probably don't agree that it's junk mail.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122023657#Comment_122023657

I agree

chalkitdown1

If everyone else in the South East could NOT vote for Terry fúcking Shannon this time, (or ever again, really) that'd be absolutely swell.

Sound.

DylanQuestion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122033393#Comment_122033393

Why? Not disagreeing (or agreeing), just curious on your reasoning

Does anyone have a list of South East candidates? From what I could find

FINE GAEL:
Des Cahill, Deirdre Forde, Barry O’Brien
LABOUR:
Peter Horgan
GREENS:
Honore Kamegni
SOC DEMS:
Susan Doyle

chalkitdown1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122085226#Comment_122085226

He objects or votes against any and all potential to move the city forward with the times. Constantly campaigns against BusConnects etc and has openly stated that he wants it to fail.

He's just generally a dinosaur, parish-pump politics type who should have no business helping to run a city.

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122085226#Comment_122085226

Not sure if this is the final list (I'd be surprised if there are no independents running):

source

DylanQuestion

No Terry Shannon?

corkie

Is there a list of candidates available yet, I'm south central.

Nominations

The period for receipt of nominations for the local elections begins at 10 am on Saturday, May 11 2024 and ends at 12 noon on Saturday, May 18 2024. https://www.corkcity.ie/en/council-services/news-room/latest-news/information-on-the-upcoming-local-elections.html

@Brussels Sprout Nominations haven't been done yet, going by the above?

Gru

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090065#Comment_122090065

Cllr. Kieran McCarthy (Ind) is running, William O Brien (Ind) is running,

Terry Shannon is running and not in that list either, there isn't a T. Lucey running.

Brussels Sprout

Got a flyer in the door for one of those new nativist parties "Ireland First". Seems they're running 2 candidates in the north side wards whose claim to fame was being arseholes to librarians last year.

Pen Rua

Had my first canvasser of the election season, a Soc Dem. Took time to listen to my issues with our street, and went about his canvassing and sales pitch.

My wife thinks she had a canvasser during last week. I wasn't home, but was told he came to the door in a salesman type role (maybe for an energy company?) and then segued into local election canvassing mode.

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122107966#Comment_122107966

That sounds like Joe Harris. He was a former councilor for the Soc Dems. He was going door to door selling pre-pay electricity systems in my area a year or two ago. He might be running again as an independent.

Edit: Yup, he's running in the South-Central Ward for the new Independent Ireland party.

Pen Rua

That tracks to what was relayed to me. At least he was time efficient - selling electricity and canvassing.

DylanQuestion

There need to be rules on the amount of posters you can hang in a certain radius. I have not forgotten your name and face between one pole to the next, or the next 10 poles

corkie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122114392#Comment_122114392

Subliminal messaging FG posters are on every second pole, from what I have seen.

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122114392#Comment_122114392

I was driving on the Rochestown Road by the Centra garage. At one point I could see 7 posters for the same candidate (Mary Rose Desmond from Fianna Fáil) which seemed excessive. This would have been in the space of maybe 100 metres. I've heard that she's absolutely deluged Coach Hill too…

Posters are important to get the face out there, but excessive postering is bloody annoying. One theory is that it is both to get the face out but also to block poles from other candidates.

Gru

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122115744#Comment_122115744

Agree 100% it's put me off voting for cllr's that do it. It's clear pettiness trying to block opponents posters from going up, and besides the plastic waste they generated they obviously don't believe in themselves that they can win on their work ethic.

shnaek

Very difficult to find a list of who's running. I was searching this morning for who's running in Cork North East - there doesn't appear to be a list anywhere. There is a list for the European candidates so I've had a chance to see what they all stand for, but not the local candidates.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122161894#Comment_122161894

https://www.corkcity.ie/en/council-services/councillors-and-democracy/local-elections-2024/cork-city-north-east/

this might be a full list but it’s got a full enough list.

Itssoeasy

and the other wards are at the bottom of the page.

shnaek

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122161909#Comment_122161909

Thanks for that

Brussels Sprout

Spotted this poster up the Northside this morning. Not exactly subtle.

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122166134#Comment_122166134

I passed one on cathedral Road, but didn't get a chance to read it fully. Gross stuff...

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122166761#Comment_122166761

That's exactly where I saw that one. There was a different one across the road as well from it from the same crowd. I'd be curious to know if they have those up on the Blackrock road and the Rochestown road as well or are they only targetting certain areas.

lostinsuperfunk

This is the candidate in question, quite a track record:

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-41288665.html

https://www.southernstar.ie/news/judge-branded-a-disgrace-by-man-who-broke-covid-rules-in-kinsale-4254491

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41219845.html

https://archive.ph/wlP1s

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-41214304.html

the beer revolu

There's an older, "Ireland is full" type, character coming up on my YouTube ads!

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Ozvaldo

Not much choice to be fair

sok2005

Is there anywhere we can view all the applicants from our area and their manifestos?

whatever76

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122169447#Comment_122169447

https://www.corkcity.ie/en/council-services/councillors-and-democracy/local-elections-2024/cork-city-south-central/ - you can select area from left , no manifestos though . not sure where to get them unless you search directly on name.

Brussels Sprout

I'd be wary of any claims that prospective candidates would be making. You'll likely find that a lot of them are outside the remit of the city council. Anyone talking about Jobs or healthcare, for example, is spoofing.

dulpit

I was just driving through the northside and I don't know whether his posters have been targeted or whether he just bought cheap posters, but Ken O'Flynn's posters look awful. Loads falling down, or with bits missing, or folding in on themselves.

Hangdogroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122166134#Comment_122166134

Thats the crowd who've been behind a campaign of harrasment against libraries, in particular the City Library in the Grand Parade. That work dodging knuckledragger Ross Lahive is actually running as a canditate for them.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175245#Comment_122175245

I was wondering the same thing but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the posters but it does look like they’ve been damaged.

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181506#Comment_122181506

I reckon it's cheap posters. I can't see why someone would target his posters specifically and why they'd do it so randomly and around the place. They're very shoddy looking though...

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122170939#Comment_122170939

A 5 point plan for peace in Gaza and Ukraine by a candidate for Passage West town council carries less weight than say Anthony Blinken?