€80k to spend - which of these 3

Theboinkmaster

Hi ive a 2011 f10 520d and upgrading at end of this year. I was set on a brand new g60 520i but when i test drove it this week i was underwhelmed.

Not just the engine power but the downgrades in interior BMW have now made - for example the buttons on the door for windows are cheap and nasty. Not sure i can suck that up for €80k.

So i was also considering:

2021/22 BMW X5 45e

or

2018 porsche panamera hybrid/petrol

I'm not concerned with fuel efficiency as drive mostly in Dublin. Priorities are comfort on the inside of the car, premium interior. Also i intend to keep the car 10 years so main concern is what will go wrong in next few years, the cost and hassle and reliability of the x5 and porsche?

Main reason for potentially buying the g60 brand new is knowing most likely car will be ok for first 5 years at least and not much 5-10 years most likely.

My own f10 really started giving trouble a few years ago once it hit 10 years - silly things now like condensation in light and having to get new headlight for €500 etc.

I'll probably go to a few dealers and test drive the x5 and panamera but i assume both will drive well and be a step up from the 60 interior.

My real question is who they will age/deteriorate on the interior as well as exterior issues and mechanical issues to come?

Buddy Bubs

Ok, here's a left field one for you.....Porsche Taycan 2021/22 for your budget. Same price as an 18 Panamera and bang up to date.

Or an Audi Etron GT you get a bit newer for same budget unless you like one much more than the other.

You're not concerned about fuel economy so I'm guessing you don't do long trips a lot.

But only if you can charge at home or work don't rely on public network.

drunkmonkey

There's a fire sale on the Mercedes eqe at the moment. 65k gets you into a new one, luxury interior. Go have a drive just to compare, 10yr or 250,000km battery warranty.

Out of warranty Porsche could be very expensive when something goes wrong.

Theboinkmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121922651#Comment_121922651

thanks ive considered them but dont want all electric. plus they've had alot of issues and i dont like the all touchscreen interior. but thanks anyway!

Theboinkmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121922747#Comment_121922747

thanks but i really dont like the look of them inside/out.

you are right about porsche which is why im considering the x5 more...

bazz26

To be honest, if your concerned about the thoughts of having to spend €500 on a new headlight for your existing 10 year old car then you might want to reconsider your choice. That cost would be miniscule compared to the cost of replacing a headlight on an X5 or Porsche of some flavour.

Theboinkmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121922809#Comment_121922809

it's more the hassle than the money. my car is now 13 years old and was fine up to 10 years but it's after that things start going wrong every 6 months it seems.

Theboinkmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121922809#Comment_121922809

im just not sure the g60 feels like an €80k car. Im going to a dealer in the morning to sit in a 2-3 year old x5 a few of them will be interesting to compare...

bazz26

I think the problem these days is that prices have risen so much in recent years that an 80k car today is really a 60k car from a couple of years back.

Did you consider the Mercedes EQE saloon? They had a recent price drop meaning a base one starts mid 60s now. Interior looks very nice with good quality even in base form, exterior is a bit bland imo though but that is subjective.

Seems to be a good few pre regs for sale. 80k would probably get you a very good AMG spec

For example:

https://www.carsireland.ie/3303253

https://www.carsireland.ie/3560522

Theboinkmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121922890#Comment_121922890

Thanks but couldn’t cope with that styling or interior. My preference is definitely bmw or Porsche

Akrasia

Not sure if you're going to get much help on here when your decision seems to be mostly based on your own aesthetic preferences

Gerrymandering reborn

I think if you want something that looks good and not that popular, Panemera Sport Turismo is the only option

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/porsche/panamera/fpa/202308241161356?journey=Search

goochy

think a Porsche warranty would be important

XsApollo

I see 222 BMW 745e on done deal for 80k

if you want comfort and a nice interior, 7 series might be an option?

drunkmonkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121923271#Comment_121923271

and a spare car, extended Porsche warranty doesn't entitle you to a lend car if it breaks down and your waiting a couple of months for it to be repaired.

kanuseeme

https://www.lexus.ie/new-cars/nx

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-gle-class-350de-amg-4matic-coupe-/36349892

95k

Theboinkmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121923144#Comment_121923144

im not looking for other options I’m looking for a choice out of the 3 I mentioned and experience/opinions on those 3 cars

Theboinkmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121923340#Comment_121923340

Only interested in one of the 3 in my original post and looking for opinions on those 3 but thank you anyway

Theboinkmaster

Now looking at a well specced g30…

can get fully loaded 530e for €55k…

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121923595#Comment_121923595

lol! Like a puppy in a playpen full of balls now.... home to the wife with an Ariel Atom.

Anaki r2d2

OP. I fully expect someone to come along and proposes you buy a Skoda shitebox

That’s normally how motor forums go on here.

me, buy with the heart. The Porsche would be lovely……the BMW’s are a bit meh

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121923862#Comment_121923862

ha!

A Porsche would be amazing theboinkmaster, could be a once in a lifetime own, infamous build quality (I'm told). Even better than a Skoda.

rabbitinlights

I was in the same boat as you a few months back, had 2011 525d F11 and kept it too long, loved it but every month something weird went wrong.

looked at the same cars, panamera, 745e, X5s but waited to test drive the G60 and was totally let down, primarily with lack of buttons and just the feeling of the interior.

Ended up in a late 22 530e G31 touring with every extra I wanted - pano, comfort memory seats, pro pack, comfort access, technology pack, heated steering, HK sound etc etc.

The older X5 & panamera didn’t feel like a €20k better car tbh but maybe that’s personal preference, there are great deals on high spec 530e out there for <€60k imo.

The sport turismos are tasty if you can get a good one below €90k.

Casati

I could be wrong, but the Porsche hybrid is very prone to problems, and with just one dealer and few specialists its could be expensive trying to run one for another ten years.

If you like BMW and are thinking of 530e why not consider the 545e - assuming that you'd be okay spending a day in the UK to buy one as unlikely to find one here. Something like this could be landed for circa 50k - just make sure you get the 2 year BMW used warranty and extend it annually. Cheaper than my Skoda that I was about to recommend!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306208736447?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol%20Plug-in%20Hybrid&make=BMW&min-engine-power=350&model=5%20Series&postcode=n87ex&year-from=2022&zero-to-60=4_TO_6&fromsra

goochy

European prestige in Naas if you are anywhere near them might be able to help you make up your mind..stock would suit you me thinks

Theboinkmaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121924134#Comment_121924134

Exactly the feedback I was looking for thank you. Also same sentiments on the g60.

this morning I’m going to test out a 530e with sport pro, tech and comfort packs - all the extras you listed and it’s a 222 reg also.

im just not sure if the g60 is worth €20k more and the panamera and x5 maintenance costs down the road would concern me but I’ll take a look anyway.

rabbitinlights

Great that I could help, try and test out the comfort seats with the upper back section - unbelievable comfort.

if they are UK imports, ask where they came from - some are ex rentals (Avis mainly), not that that’s a bad thing but good to know either way.

GT motors in Baldoyle have great stock normally but they go quick.

let us know how you get on.

forumdedum

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121922747#Comment_121922747

Where can I see this Merc? Thank you

forumdedum

Tried to delete my post but couldn't. Just googled the model. I got mixed up with the Merc Electric SUV

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121925929#Comment_121925929

Any of the Mercedes dealers. Loads of them on DD

drunkmonkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121925946#Comment_121925946

There's a sale on the SUV as well..