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CGT on mixed investment portfolio allowable expenses.

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  • 19-03-2024 2:23pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭


    Has anybody any experience of this scenario.

    Are entry, annual and exit fees paid to and intermediary/broker on a portfolio containing shares, non governmental bonds and gold allowable expenses. I am already aware of the annual €1270 CGT credit.

    Or direct me to a resource that answers this query.

    Thanks in advance.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Trading fees, as in buying and selling commissions = yes.

    Annual fees for simply having the account = no.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭victorcarrera


    Thanks. The financial advice practice charges 0.5% to arrange the portfolio with a company that manages the fund and they in turn charge 1% set up fee. Can I take it that the 1% is allowable because it is a commission for buying stock but the 0.5% is not? Likewise on exit.

    Thereafter the annual cost is 1.8%. As it is a managed fund there is trading of the various assets during the year but I am not doing the trading. How does the client know at end of tax year what if any commissions / trades to claim against CGT? Does the client get notification of the cost of trading and can the client claim for them.

    This is the only relevant info I found on revenue.ie

    What are ‘allowable expenses’?

    These are costs that you can deduct from the sale price to work out your chargeable gain. They can be:

    • costs (for example, fees paid by you to a solicitor or auctioneer) when you acquired and disposed of the asset.

    I understand that means the allowable expenses are not in addition to the €1270 exemption but are to be subtracted from the sale price prior to calculating the CGT.

    Ultimately I'm beginning to think that Tax and financial advice + Fees+inflation+CGT+hassle versus Gain is not worth it when compared to a straight forward easy access 4% deposit account less DIRT.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Be careful.

    Managed funds in Ireland are subject to exit tax at 41%, not income tax and CGT.


    My earlier reply applies to the situation where you hold the stocks and bonds directly.



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