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uaim/uait....

  • 18-03-2024 3:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭


    Cant wrap my head around this.

    Learning on Duo-lingo.

    Can someone point me to a resource to explain it le do thoil?


    Go raibh maith agaibh



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    You might need to explain your problem, as you haven't identified a specific problem. It would also help if you mentioned how much Irish you learned in the past, or if you never learned Irish at school at all.

    If you want to know what the words mean, to begin with - they are a combination of a preposition and a personal pronoun. These combinations are common in Irish, as they are in some other languages.

    Specifically,

    uaim = ó +mé (from me)

    uait = ó + tú (from you)

    and so on for the other persons.

    Another example:

    agam = ag + mé

    agat = ag + tú

    etc for the other persons.

    You might need to buy a basic Irish grammar if this is not familiar from your schooldays.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭what?


    I'm staring over , I pretty much tuned out of Irish 30 yrs ago

    Struggling with the concept and structure of uaim/uait/uathi....

    It makes no sense to me at all

    Dictionary says it means "from me/he/she" in Duolingo I get ...

    Some examples

    "Ta urthi rith" - She must run

    "Ta air snamh" - He must swim

    "Ta anradh agus aran uaidh" - He wants soup and bread


    Is this correct?


    Cheers



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Hi @what?

    Basically, in English we have prepositions that don't change and pronouns that do.

    I, you, he, she, we, ye/you, they

    => On me, on you, on him, on her, on us, on ye, on them.

    In Irish, the two are usually combined into a Synthetic Form (for the Simple Prepositions, at least) and the spelling changes depending on who you're talking about. There are some patterns to these Prepositional Pronouns that can usually help make it easier. (Mé + m, Tú + t, Sé + e, Sí + i, Muid + inn, Sibh + bh, Siad + u).

    I have a table here somewhere with the full list. I'll copy and paste it in.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Forainmneacha Réamhfhoclaca


    Ar dtús, na Réamhfhocail Shimplí.


    - Ar ("on")

    - Ag ("at", possession)

    - As ("out of")

    - Chuig ("to")

    - Do ("to")

    - De ("off of")

    - Faoi ("under", "about")

    - I ("in")

    - Idir ("between", "among")

    - Ionsar ("towards")

    - Le ("with")

    - Ó ("from")

    - Roimh ("in front of", "before")

    - Thar ("over", "above")


    Na Réamhfhocail Shimplí leis an Alt


    Ar an (+ urú)

    Ag an (+ urú)

    As an (+ urú)

    Chuig an (+ urú)

    Don (+ séimhiú)

    Den (+ séimhiú)

    Faoin (+ urú)

    Sa (+ séimhiú)

    Ionsar an (+ urú)

    Leis an (+ urú)

    Ón (+ urú)

    Roimh an (+ urú)

    Thar an (+ urú)


    Ar

    Orm

    Ort

    Air

    Uirthi

    Orainn

    Oraibh

    Orthu


    Ag

    Agam

    Agat

    Aige

    Aici

    Againn

    Agaibh

    Acu


    As

    Asam

    Asat

    As

    Aisti

    Asainn

    Asaibh

    Astu


    Chuig

    Chugam

    Chugat

    Chuige

    Chuici

    Chugainn

    Chugaibh

    Chucu


    Do

    Dom

    Duit

    Di

    Dúinn

    Daoibh

    Dóibh


    De

    Díom

    Díot

    De

    Di

    Dínn

    Díbh

    Díobh


    Faoi

    Fúm

    Fút

    Faoi

    Fúithi

    Fúinn

    Fúibh

    Fúthu


    I

    Ionam

    Ionat

    Ann

    Inti

    Ionainn

    Ionaibh

    Iontu


    Idir

    Idir mé

    Idir tú

    Idir sé

    Idir sí

    Eadrainn

    Eadraibh

    Eatarthu


    Ionsar

    Ionsorm

    Ionsort

    Ionsair

    Ionsuirthi

    Ionsorainn

    Ionsoraibh

    Ionsorthu


    Le

    Liom

    Leat

    Leis

    Léi

    Linn

    Libh

    Leo


    Ó

    Uaim

    Uait

    Uaidh

    Uaithi

    Uainn

    Uaibh

    Uathu


    Roimh

    Romham

    Romhat

    Roimhe

    Roimpi

    Romhainn

    Romhaibh

    Rompu


    Thar

    Tharam

    Tharat

    Thairis

    Thairsti

    Tharainn

    Tharaibh

    Tharstu

    Post edited by Insect Overlord on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭what?


    thanks v much for that

    I think i was putting Uirthi in with O(fada)....


    Thank you



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭LimeFruitGum


    When I was an adult learner of Irish fadó, I found "Irish Grammar Book" by Nollaig Mac Congail very useful. I wouldn't exclusively rely on Duolingo for Irish grammar.

    English is direct compared to Irish. If you think about a basic phrase: I am hungry. In Irish, that translates to "Hunger is on me" --> Tá ocras orm. And orm is also a prepositional pronoun (on+me/you/...).

    It takes a while to get your head around Irish syntax & grammar, because of course we are used to thinking in English. It may also help to google examples of uaim, uait, uathu etc to see how these terms are used in context. I'd try a government website first so you've a better chance of comparing the Irish against the English original.



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