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The last early spring or dry March you rememember

  • 06-03-2024 10:16am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,984 ✭✭✭


    Is it just me or does anyone think that growth seems later and later each year? i know in farmers journal they put a grass growth curve diagram each week and there is a black curve showing 10 year average, it seems it is always saying there a bih shoot up on growth around the first to second week off march and by ealry april we should be looking really good growth. it seems growth isnt really kicking in until about april 20th each year, if you were to go by experts cattle would be out around march 17th each year at least. has anyone noticed that black curve getting later if indeed it really is a 10 year average. just seems every march and early april is wet and cold.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    autumn management has a lot to do with spring growth, we have good covers on fields closed october /early nov. these were skinned at time of closing

    we had fields with grass late nov/early dec and the question whether to graze or leave , decided to graze as covers were heavy, and grazed with sheep , very little covers of them but got slurry in january and lovely re growth starting a few unit of n now and should take off

    I haven't bought the journal in years so don't know about their "curves"



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Re growth curves in the IFJ: the accuracy of those graphs depends on what data they use. I'm assuming they don't map the country and get data from everyone, and it's more likely from PastureBase (which is mostly used by dairy farmers and the odd wannabe like myself!) or from research/demo farms (which are mostly on good soils and with plenty infrastructure/labour).

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,217 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    April 10th was always the date to work towards cows being out at night here. Any day they are out before Patrick's day is a bonus. Bought 30 silage bales of silage this morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Anytime I do this, something goes wrong.

    But personally for me it's been one of the best years for winter growth that has been here. I remember years where grass was still burnt out of it with the frost on 17th March. And there it is this year cows as they calve and grass available to graze. Cows are out three weeks at this stage by day and stay in on the wet days. Out yesterday, out today.

    Every farm and district is different.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Every year is different also. If you remember, February last year was almost totally dry, followed by a soaking March (and April to an extent). It put Spring grazing back a good bit. That's why I was not too sorry to see a bad month of February this year, get the bad weather out of the way to some extent hopefully. I usually have good covers of grass come Spring, and will need them this year, as silage is getting low and will have to let out some cattle at the weekend. It's usually 50/50 that I can get some out in early March.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Coolcormack1979


    Haven’t had as much grass here in yrs on paddocks.got out with a half bag of urea on last Saturday in January as I’d let slip in past few yrs going early with urea.its paid off and am ready to go.cows out by day for past week or so and if it dries up I’ll let them off with the shed door open to come back in if they want.

    often had cows out here by day in first week of feb and if weather allowed and grass available by nite.have to say after last ur here being the worst i had in 25 yrs at this crack I’m not stressing about it this time.i will take a wet February over last yrs March and April anyday.

    lads need to stop stressing about some lula on the journal saying u need to have 30/40% grazed by some mysterious date or else your a bad farmer and haven’t a clue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    In fairness cattle that do get out in February/early March do very well. Have a handful of yearling bulls out since mid January and they are flying it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭Coolcormack1979


    Agree.when possible I’ll go out early.about 10 yrs ago I let out a bunch of maiden heifers in mid February.lovely weather at the time and all going great till it bulled snow about 3 days later.they were in a very sheltered field so chanced them and they did grand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,984 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    are all of you just cattle of some description and cows? anyone have sheep ? also an annoying thing in farmers journal is they have sections on dairy ,beef,sheep and beef but they actually never have advice for the farmer with 70-100 cattle and maybe 100 ewes, im sure theres very few sheep farmers who have only sheep. sure a farm like that is totally different.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Every year is different, but it feels like winter only starts on the 1st of February the last few years. Maybe it's because autumn/ early winter is getting milder and wetter.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    Ya, id agree here dont know if its a long term trend or Im imagining it but i seem to get to late november/early mid december here over the past nimber of years with relatively good conditions and its only around mid jan/early feb the real miserable stuff starts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭kk.man


    i think 2012 was a very dry February to April. I had cattle out for almost the month of February, never happened before or since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Austinbrick


    March 2011 was very dry for 3 weeks at least.

    The builder did the foundations of our house without any rain. Unusually fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    But the problem is if you can not get cows out in the spring early,you wont make a brown cent so you have the journal boys on good ground with them out and Teagasc preaching to the rest of us to get them out on average ground that will poach if a shower of fog came in over Kerry head .So it a catch 22 save the ground and make shag all or try some bit of graing is the reality!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭endainoz


    March has been fairly forgiving so far, ground has dried fairly well with this drying easterly wind the last few days. It's a bit colder that average for the time of year though. Reasonable grass covers, will probably chance letting a few out into a sheltered field today. Decent amount of rains due later in the week so really hoping this won't horribly back fire. 🙈



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭dh1985


    If I recall correctly 2011 and 2012 were two bad summers. Last January and Feb were great followed by a bad summer. Hopefully the poor early spring brings a good summer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭Good loser


    the crows started their nests on time this year anyway - March 1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,984 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    very little growth worth talking about before april as far as i can see the last few years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Frost on mayday this last few years. Spring is now winter



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