Written Warning and future progression!

Facthunt

I'm currently on a written warning for an incident that happened at work! It expires after 6 months. What I am curious about here us:

1. Has anyone been in a similar position and tried leaving their current role while under a warning? Were you successful securing a new role?

2. After it expires its suppose to come off my record. Does that mean if a new employer ever asked if I had been on a disaplinary would my current employer in this case say no?

MrMusician18

If you are on a warning you should leave as it will always hang over you in that company and will hold back your progression.

No, companies are not allowed to disclose your employment details and record with anyone else.

Facthunt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846432#Comment_121846432

Is that true re not disclosing it as I don't want it following me around!

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846508#Comment_121846508

Why do you think it follows you around? How do you think it follows you around?

Warnings are an internal disciplinary tool, nothing more nothing less. Not only don't they get shared between companies, it would be highly unprofessional for info about warnings to be made public at all.

I suspect you are very much overthinking things. But without knowing the seriousness of what the warning was about nobody can really answer your question.

Facthunt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846525#Comment_121846525

Grabbed PPE of colleague who is a known bully! Apparently I didn't take the right course of action, which I knew and apologised, but it was deemed that I assaulted a colleague by doing that! By the letter of the law .... that is correct! But I wasn't letting anyone get bullied under my nose!!

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846746#Comment_121846746

"Assault" could easily be regarded as gross misconduct resulting in dismissal, that they only gave a warning says to me that they weren't too concerned about it.

Again though, these are internal disciplinary matters. The only way it could have relevance to you getting a new job is if the new employer rings somebody asking for a reference, and a manager tells them you assaulted somebody. And that would be a serious breach of confidentiality that could get the manager in a lot of trouble, so I wouldn't be too concerned about that. Even just asking if you had been disciplined is a serious HR no-no.

People get warnings all the time, for serious reasons and for petty reasons. They are not criminal convictions, don't overthink them.

Facthunt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846793#Comment_121846793

Thank you bucketybuck for putting me at ease!

I have seen a few roles I am interested in so will go ahead and apply. I was concerned I may be wasting my time!

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121846746#Comment_121846746

There is the official path and then there is the grape vine...

Physically assaulting someone is a serious matter that people won't forget even if the company officially does. So what it really comes down to is how good the grape vine is in your area or sector. If you are part of a small workforce where most of the people know each other through conferences and movement between a small set of players, then it is very likely that most people will get to know about it. On the other hand if you are a member of a large workforce where there is little chance of a new employer know people in your old employers then you can feel reasonable easy about it.

cml387

It very much depends.

I have known colleagues who got written warnings for various misdeeds but it made absolutely no difference to their further advancement because it was seen to be a one off.

On the other hand a warning for behaviour that would be seen to be consistent with a pattern of behaviour did have consequences for their future.

Facthunt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121848277#Comment_121848277

Some very valid points from you both. Thank you.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121848277#Comment_121848277

Works both ways though, if it is small enough that everybody hears that the OP had a fight with the bully, then it is small enough that everybody already knows about that bully.

Capt. Autumn

100% look for new employment. A written warning will almost certainly wreck your future prospects. I should know. Written warning in 2007. No promotion since. almost 20 years....

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121861469#Comment_121861469

He physically assaulted someone, it is not just that he did not get on with certain people and that makes a very big difference. Giving someone with history a violence a second chance weakens any defence the new employer might have should there be a reoccurrence and he was sued. Most employers will pass on such an opportunity.

foxsake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874379#Comment_121874379

your post reads like the script of a some US TV law series.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121891941#Comment_121891941

No, it is from the actual experience of having to deal with legal and risk management in mainland European companies. And yes European employees are every bit as likely to make a claim against their employer, if they see an opportunity for free money, don't be under the illusion that Americans are the only ones that do this.