[Resolved] Disputing warning

Donald Trump

I called a poster a liar because they continued to post that I had said something when I did not say it. This is the original post:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121721441#Comment_121721441

I posted that I never used the word "control". For some reason this post has been deleted by the moderators. I assume you can see it though.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121722319#Comment_121722319

I called them a liar because they were lying. I never said "Jews control Western media". I simply posted to an article which detailed how they manipulate reporting out of Israel. From the Guardian.

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- Big Bag of Chips

Donald Trump

I have some more to add to this. The behaviour of the moderator in question is nothing short of bullying.

Today I get a warning for this: <Link removed as post deleted>

for being "Off topic". Because I referred to the posters continued irrelevant posts about the Catholic Church.

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- Big Bag of Chips

Donald Trump

An earlier example:

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I got warned about a post calling for higher disability benefits for genuine cases. The moderator subsequently put a warning in the OP about anyone mentioning SW and then referred me to it. I pointed out they only put that in after I made my post (which did not say anything negative) and there were tumbleweeds.

Donald Trump

Same moderator warned me for this post

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Said I was "trolling" for replying to a post which itself was making a joke but still exists. I only responded to their joke.

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- Big Bag of Chips

Donald Trump

Same moderator also gave me a warning for this. The poster kept lying and misquoting me deliberately so I told them they were a liar. They were trolling. After I pointed out that I had never used the word, they kept putting it in - even putting it in bold - and attributing it to me.

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I was subsequently accused of being a liar. Did I give a sh1t? No. Is that post still there? Yes, it is. I don't care that it's there but it doesn't seem to be consistent.

Donald Trump

So what is going to happen to the above? Will there be a recognition that there is a pattern here of bullying and bias?

Or more likely just saying "well he gave you X cards and now you have X cards so we will give you this sanction"

Big Bag of Chips

As per the dispute resolution process have you discussed this with the moderator? This thread will be used to discuss your warning only. It will not discuss any other users or any actions taken or not against them.

Confirm you have discussed it with the moderator in question and I will ask a Category Moderator to look at it for you.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121756422#Comment_121756422

Messages were sent to the moderator after each. Most were just ignored. For the one about the SW I even sent one about a week later to ask them to please look at it again, pointing out they only put their warning in after I made my post (which in and of itself was not offensive anyway).

Big Bag of Chips

@Donald Trump I am going to tidy up the posts above. Many of the links you have posted to your posts are now dead because the posts have been deleted and as mentioned above this process will not be used to discuss any other posters so all posts quoting others are unnecessary.

I will ask a category moderator to look at this but I will also ask you to try be clear and succinct in your appeal, and focus only on your warning.

Donald Trump

Ok. I had thought that the moderators would be able to see the "deleted" posts so I put the links in.

Big Bag of Chips

Post deleted. Only the poster and the category moderator are allowed post in DRP.

ancapailldorcha

Hi Donald Trump,

I'm going to get straight to the point. You've had seven warnings since this year began. Seven.

Having had a quick look at the posts that garnered the last few warnings, I think you got off extremely lightly. The last warning indicates that you'll lose your access to the CA forum should you continue posting as you have been doing.

That you've waited until this point to begin appealing earlier warnings suggests that you are not engaging in good faith. I think you should either take a break from CA or change your posting style there. I have no interest in who said what to you. You know to use the report function at this point.

Therefore, I'm upholding the warnings.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121757816#Comment_121757816

What is the relevance of waiting until now to appeal warnings? Genuine question.

Why not take a minute to look at the actual warnings? I got two of them - again from the same moderator - subsequent to posting this thread. for nothing again. Except perhaps retaliation.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121759294#Comment_121759294

I've said all I intend to say.

To answer your question, it's odd to say the least that you've waited until the last warning informing you that you're on your last chance to appeal these. You've posted on the site multiple times in the past few days.

Anyway, I've made my decision. The next step is to appeal to an admin if you'd like or to leave it at that. I won't be debating this further.

Donald Trump

Most normal people wouldn't bother running to open a dispute for every warning which - although unjustified - could be a genuine mistake or mis-understanding on the behalf of the moderator. You might raise it once a pattern emerges. It is illogical to dismiss the failure to raise earlier ones as meaning the entirety is not made in good faith.

If you work in an office and a colleague says something a little off-colour towards you, you probably won't run straight to HR. If a pattern becomes clear and you eventually take it to them, it would be a bit silly if, after you presented your evidence - that the HR person would dismiss it as "well you are obviously here in bad faith because you didn't come running to us the first time that person might have displayed their behaviour"

If a moderator has a particular bias e.g. against a certain grouping of people either due to prejudice or religion or otherwise, they should recuse themselves from a certain thread. That thread is a sh1tshow. There is a heavy bias against people saying Palestinians should have basic rights. There are a number of Israeli supporting posters listed on the front page as being banned (with no lifted notification) who are still posting on it. I say leave them post, but at least be consistent.

I anticipate the response so no need to post it - "You know where the report button is". I would rarely use it. I don't care that much. Ironically, I did use it on one particular sequence of trolling posts in that thread. That post I reported is still there. What happened - well I got warned myself and had a post deleted. Isn't that nonsense? So I made this thread. And then in retaliation for starting this thread, I get two more.

I mean in a thread about Palestine and Israel, one poster keeps sneering and harping on about the Catholic Church. I make one post pointing out the irony of them continually dismissing one religion while simultaneously supporting another group based entirely on what they say their religion promises to them, and I get a warning for being "off topic". If I go to a GAA thread and keep posting about Taylor Swift and the Superbowl, and then one poster says that I seem obsessed with the irrelevant Taylor Swift, I wouldn't expect that it would be them that would get the warning for being off-topic and have their post deleted and for mine to remain!