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Extension cable tripping what I think is the RCD

  • 19-12-2023 7:33am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,886 ✭✭✭✭


    Borrowed an extn lead yesterday afternoon in the dark from a neighbour and when I plugged in a light to it, it tripped the double pole thing on the board.

    Not the MCB

    Went and bought one, all good.

    When the unit below is plugged into the faulty extn , all three green come on and the board does not trip until something else is plugged into it.

    Would welcome any thoughts as don't want to give it back without knowing what the issue is.

    Thanks as always


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Probably N-E reverse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    "Double-pole thing"... would that be the main breaker or did it have a "test" button on this breaker?

    I'm thinking it might have been a short due to a cable insulation fault.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,886 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Thanks guys, will check it when home next

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Bruthal.


    Possible N E reversed alright. Tester takes too low a load to trip RCD with that scenario so all will look OK on that tester once the phase is correct. Open plug of extension lead would be first check.

    If that looks OK, try plug the lead into a twin socket then plug a kettle in the other socket and see if RCD trips.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    A tester can't distinguish can it between N and E ?

    A high-current fault loop test would trip an RCD



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Bruthal.


    No can't I wouldn't think.

    The L E and L N reversal displays is based on the phase being in the N pin and assumes the N is in the phase one then. If phase was in N terminal and E was in phase terminal and N in E of socket the tester is plugged into, it would display P N reversed etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Antenna


    Or else N touching E due to insulation worn off somewhere. Will trip RCD under sufficient load as some of the N current goes on the E conductor



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    I dug out an old Robin 3-wire fault loop tester

    Thought maybe my brain was deceiving me but no there's no N-E reversal led on it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Bruthal.


    The earlier mentioned extension lead plugged Into a twin socket and kettle in the other socket beside it was the idea to test, to show that up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Bruthal.


    Yea I just noticed now that it actually says on the tester in the thread, that it can't detect N E reversed. As said though, L E reverse indication assumes the N is not swapped with E as well, and vice versa.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Could be it's not the lead at all , hard to say

    N-E reverse isn't something you'd expect on a lead

    That would mean the neighbour had non -working RCD or none



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Any updates on this op

    Is the lead gone away for forensic analysis?



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