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Painting Radiator

  • 11-12-2023 9:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37


    Hi guys

    The radiator in my ensuite is looking pretty ugly, how should I tackle this job to get it back to its best and prevent this rust(?) from building up again?

    Thanks

    J




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Had similar myself, got very fine sandpaper to clear off any rust, then got radiator spray, it came up like new and was easy to apply. 3 years later it's starting to show small signs of rust and will need a repeat of the process. With the damp environment of the bathroom the better the ventilation the less moisture there should be to cause rust.

    I believe this is what I used, other brands available, gave it 3 coats. I used satin, you can also get it in gloss depending on the final finish you want.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 40wattbulb


    Thanks, how did you protect the rest of the room when using the spray...is it more hassle than painting?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I just put down newspaper around the radiotor and behind it. If I was doing it again I would put down black refuse bags around the base as you might get a tiny bit of overspill on tiles at the base that could leak through newspaper. The problem with painting with a brush is you will leave brushstrokes in the finish, a roller will give a much better finish but the uneven surface of the radiator is a pain even with a small roller so for me spraying was the way to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Use a heap of old newspaper.

    Tape off the pipes and connections.

    Tape newspaper to wall behind rad and floor all around.

    Go much further with the paper than you think as paint gives off a light dust effect over a fair distance but is easy removed even when dry.

    Will give excellent finish compared to brush painting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I'd recommend closing the valves, draining and taking the radiator off the wall so you can do it in the back garden but I'm sure you could do it in situ if you put up enough newspaper behind and below.

    (BTW: keep an eye out in Lidl, they often have the radiator spray paint and it's much cheaper than Woodies)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 40wattbulb


    Thanks found this video as well which looks pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZXomZFXUw&ab_channel=CREATIVECRAMBO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    I did this a couple of years ago using the spray. I did the walls at the same time and was treating them for mould so didn't worry too much.

    Gave it a bit of a sand and dust first to clean off debris and older chipped paint. Came out like new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    I used Hammerite Radiator Enamel on mine. It's very good if applied correctly.

    I covered off about 3m away from the rad and I still had paint-dust after that as there was a slight draft and it carried the paint droplets through a damn doorway. I nearly lost my mind. Took a bit of scrubbing to get it off the wooden floor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭Field east


    Is the rad near the toilet bowl. ? Spatters from mens’ pee landing no the rad is not good as it will eat into the paint. Am open to correction here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Let's not be sexist here, it could be anybody's pee. 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Personally I'd either just replace it, shouldn't be more than 50-60 euro, or replace it with a chrome heated towel rail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    I would deffo price up a replacement before attempting to DIY a respray.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭Buffman


    I wouldn't bother spaying it myself, this is one of those situations where it's less hassle to paint it with a brush and not bother with the prep/protection required for spraying.

    Throw some protection on your floor and 5 min with some sandpaper to remove the surface rust and scour the surface to make it ready for paint, a quick hoover/wipe to remove dirt/dust and a few minutes with a paint brush will have it looking like new.

    If you can find this for Ronseal 1 coat rad paint for the €10 they have it on offer for in B&Q, it's a good price.


    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    If able to diy the replacement it would be reasonably cost effective. If sending for a plumber it really would be madness to change out instead of a quick respray which really does come out perfect with minimal prep.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭DC999


    I've always hand painted rads and they come out looking decent.

    A chrome rad outputs less heat than a white one. No idea why but it's a fact. Chrome towel rails put out very little heat due to both a much smaller surface area plus the chrome too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


    I absolutely agree with this. When we got a new bathroom installed the guy said he'd be installing a towel rail. I said it won't be as warm as a rad and he said it would. I was proved right!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,120 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I'd also add that some of the chrome towel rails on the market are very poor quality.

    The chrome doesn't last on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    It's called emissivity, the ability of a surface to radiate heat.

    Generally black or dark surfaces emit more heat-radiation than shiny or reflective, that's why kettles are commonly chromed or polished steel so that the heat-loss is lower than a black surface.

    But the oddest thing is that radiators don't radiate much energy, they mostly convect it (ie the heat which comes from the top of the radiator is greater than that from the front). But you'd notice that you had less radiated heat from a chrome radiator because there is less infra-red radiation within the room, so your skin feels cooler.

    So now you know!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,186 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Yep i've always wondered why black isn't the standard colour for radiators rather than white which theoretically would be the worst bar chrome for radiation, but as you say 'radiators' is a misnomer as the vast majority of the heat is through convection. Also why radiators are best placed on the coldest wall, usually under windows, as this ensures the best circulation of air within the room.

    As for towel rails, they generally have a lower BTU (energy output) than panel rads so regardless of colour size for size a room will feel cooler.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    The biggest issue with towel radiators is the typically they have a towel on them, so its very hard for them to radiate heat.


    Assuming you can find a rad of similar width, swapping them out is a very quick job with no draining of the system, assuming you are happy to keep the same valves/tails.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 40wattbulb


    Went for the respray option.. turned out ok. Thanks for all the advice




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Looks great. Doesn't take a huge effort to mask it off and the finish is better in my opinion than doing by brush



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Definitely. Plus the extra coats really help.

    Good job @40wattbulb.



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