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Buying a car with finance owing

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  • 13-10-2023 12:03am
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    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭whizkid9


    Hi, I am considering buying a used car. there is an outstanding amount of 5Kish owed on the car.

    Can anyone advise, how to proceed with the purchase? while safeguarding myself?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Anaki r2d2


    Simple answer is= don't buy it. You have went to effort or checking it. You know there is outstanding credit. Even if you buy it, you risk losing it

    If you are indeed a whizz kid, walk away





  • You don’t? Why would you buy a car that the current owner may just keep the cash altogether and leave the debt owed?

    the car ends up repossessed and you’re out the cash and the car. It’s a private sale so no recourse for you & the finance company isn’t going to care.

    you would be absolutely mad to buy it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭whizkid9


    Thanks. The seller was open about it and is okay with me directly settling the outstanding amount with the hire purchase bank. Does this change anything?



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 645 CMod ✭✭✭✭LIGHTNING


    Why bother with the hassle? Plenty of used cars on the market.



  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭whizkid9


    seller willing to sell ~20% cheaper than what is on the market



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  • Registered Users Posts: 51,179 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I don't think this is as outrageous or uncommon as it seems if done properly by both seller and buyer.

    Seller should get a settlement figure from the bank. Buyer then accompanies the seller to their bank and pays the finance settlement figure directly to the bank. Bank then gives the seller an official letter/statement listing that the finance/loan is settled in full on the car and they no longer have any interest in it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,094 ✭✭✭User1998


    Ignore previous comments. As above, get the settlement figure, settle the finance, and pay the balance to the owner.

    Better yet if the finance is with AIB you can do it all at once in an AIB bank.

    Most expensive cars have finance owed so this is not uncommon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭goochy


    is the car 20 % cheaper than retail or other private sales ??



  • Registered Users Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Anaki r2d2


    Why sell 20% below? if you know the person well, maybe then buy it. But I would deal with the hassle. What price of car is it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭GusGus


    so many silly comments- of course there is no issue with buying a car with finance owed . The owner was open and honest - it wasn’t discovered . Just settle the finance separately. It’s hardly a big deal nowadays .



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,089 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    The seller does not own the car, the HP company does. And there is no guarantee that the HP company will settle for that amount outstanding… so they may hit you up for more money. And what are you going to do to get your money back if it does not go through?

    Surely there must be other cars out there where you can pay your money, get the documents and go on your way…



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭Breezy_


    Would paying the outstanding not settle it? Why would they ask for more?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,094 ✭✭✭User1998


    Nonsense, you get the settlement figure from the finance company and pay it. Its not difficult at all. I’ve done it several times with AIB.

    Yes, its a bit more hassle than buying a €2k car for cash, but most people finance their cars nowadays and can’t afford to settle the finance themselves, so if your buying a €20k car privately then this is what your going to have to deal with a lot of the time.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,089 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    There is almost always a penalty for breaking a financial agreement early and of you don't know one way or the other, so why bother with the extra hassle?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Allinall


    The penalty is on the person selling the car.

    They just get the remainder of the agreed price after the finance is settled.

    Its a perfectly normal arrangement and nothing to be worried about.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,094 ✭✭✭User1998


    Whatever penalties your talking about would be included in the settlement figure.



  • Registered Users Posts: 51,179 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The settlement figure on the day of request will include any early breakage penalties, admin fees, etc. Once the settlement figure is paid then they no longer have any legal holding on the vehicle so there will be no chasing the new owner later on, it's not the Mafia. You can also request they issue an official letter/statement to that effect.



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