Hamas strike on Israel

TedBundysDriver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234239#Comment_121234239

Numbers are upward of 85 dead 35 children according to latest report.

Obviously Hamas terrorists something something. Israel has completely lost the plot now. Not surprisingly given their track record and the Israeli Trump in charge

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234196#Comment_121234196

it is ultimately true, the mountains of evidence gathered by plenty of organisations, + israel's very own actions, show it to be the case.

MisterAnarchy

One thing Trump was right about was fake news, the absolute lies being peddled in the media in the last week is revolting.

The Zionist movement have infiltrated almost every new organisation in the world and have them do their bidding.

Interesting clip here that shows how pervasive it is.

https://twitter.com/Ryansikorski10/status/1712511473212084721

"Make sure its balanced and Zionist in nature"

Indeed

circadian

It's pretty clear what is happening. This is an Israeli elected representative.

buzzerxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234196#Comment_121234196

The world knows its true, thank god for the internet and camera phones its common knowledge that Israel is Barbaric.

After a quick google I just watched a video from a few years ago of idf psychos beating palestians to death inside a mosque.

The BBC describes this as ‘clashes erupt at contested holy site’. Shameful choice of headline. Police beating unarmed women and children are not ‘clashes’. ‘Occupied’ holy sites are not ‘contested’. If these were videos from Ukraine showing Russian soldiers abusing Ukrainians….it would be front page news 24/7. Deeply and mortifyingly disturbing.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234270#Comment_121234270

Israel is a nuclear power with estimates of over 100 nuclear warheads. So unless these the Ayatollah wants to rule over a kingdom so irradiated that it can be seen from space, you’re talking pure rot

There was another poster in here fantasising about the same thing earlier in the week, too.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121233900#Comment_121233900

Deir Yassin was 1947 pre-founding of Israel. Not clear how many were active combatants, including men dressed as women, but some were. Plus there were 'foreign military' involved on the part of the residents, so not a quiet little innocent hamlet. FWIW there was a humanitarian corridor left open by the attackers and warnings to the village, many of the villagers left in advance. Can't do that with Hamas running the show apparently.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234272#Comment_121234272

Of course I can, we have a murderous regime who have a history of executing journalists, we have more dead journalists today, we have people who were there saying they were targeted on purpose.

Again I don't see why you are going out of your way to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Sounds like a slam dunk duck to me.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121233976#Comment_121233976

Setting aside what was, what should have been. What one would like etc.

I can't see anything but a relocation as a long term fix.

If that isn't possible, a greatly reduced in size Gaza. A mile wide no go zone, on the boder, northern Gaza empty. This will help stop attacks but not always.

Incorporation in to Israel, disaster, what happens say when a family kill a son for being gay and the police go to arrest them, the street goes mental against them, just a little issue again. This would be a bloodbath option.

The level of control to keep Gaza would be a 80k soldier job. Unsustainable long term and probably very bloody long term for all sides.

The ground war will be very brutal, we only have to look at what it took to route out Islamic state. There will be somewhere between 50 and 100k fighters to be killed. That's a lot of dead fighters and they have had years to prepare.

Bigger picture, Hezbollah may well have to be destroyed, we'd all be amazed if they aren't already waiting for the next phase, Iran itself might have to be severely chastised, set back 30 years.

Given the severity of last weekends attack. The sheer savagery of it, how nearly all the soldiers will know someone affected, they'll be revved up and given it is a war as opposed to the little military operations of the last 50 years it will be rougher, warlike. If there is sustained enemy fire from a neighbourhood block. Level the entire block rather than clear it. Same as every army would in a major war.

This will spill into Europe, there is a large activist base frothing at the mouth about Jews. When they can't kill Jews, everyone else will do as well, all the same to them.

If Hamas survive this then long term it will end in an attack that will probably necessitate Tehran going up in a mushroom, ie Hamas using chemical weapons etc.

TedBundysDriver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234264#Comment_121234264

Oh that's alright so, all is forgiven. How nice of them.

What's next, "sure we'll stop using white phosphorus and only use bombs to kill you"?

#considerateisraelis

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234264#Comment_121234264

Where is that update coming from?

buried

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234304#Comment_121234304

Well let them drop them then. They clearly want to, clearly now have the reason to, so have f**king at it. Or is the USA in control of that too?

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234300#Comment_121234300

"May God protect the security forces."

There will be a nice hot place in hell for this guy and his colleagues.

TedBundysDriver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234292#Comment_121234292

Reuters and Al Jazeera along with C4 are some good sources that haven't been compromised. Israel attacked both Reuters and Al Jazeera journalists today killing one. Complete coincidence I'm sure 🙄

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121233899#Comment_121233899

No, the important part is people using the fact that Joe said he saw the same allegations we did on the news somehow made it more true or not.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234323#Comment_121234323

You want a nuclear war in the Middle East? Where are all the posters that claimed it was the pro Israelis overcome with bloodlust?

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234346#Comment_121234346

Yes not all of the media is biased and paid off .

Never has the adage "Whoever controls the media, controls the mind" been more relevant.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234318#Comment_121234318

Nothing Israel does will ever get approval from some people - even when they do the right thing.

They have it in for Israel, no matter what. They have an absolute undying hatred of the country.

I believe that's fuelled by racist conspiracy theories about Jewish people and the anti-Semitism that goes along with it.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234264#Comment_121234264

Oh, how magnanimous of them.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234373#Comment_121234373

Is white phosphorous on civilian populations the right thing TM?

tayto lover

600 Palestinian children murdered now. 40 Israeli

Huge rally in New York with Palestinians and Jews demanding an end to the bombing of Gaza.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234354#Comment_121234354

And has President or the white house made any official public Statement saying that this did not happen

Overheal

There have to be better solutions to Hamas' own violations of the Geneva Convention etc. than committing our own.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234387#Comment_121234387

The vast, vast majority of Jewish people are unopposed to Netanyahu taking action in Gaza to wipe out Hamas for good.

There'll always be exceptions, whose opinions we should equally respect. But let's not pretend they are in the majority.

In Israel itself, there is overwhelming support for military engagement with Hamas.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234393#Comment_121234393

YES. This has already been reported on thread. Both from CNN and directly from NSC John Kirby AT A PRESS CONFERENCE. You've been glued ass to seat to this thread for days you cannot have missed it.

buried

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234361#Comment_121234361

The only people that want and envisage a nuclear war in the middle east are the ones that own/claim to own nuclear weapons in the middle east, so where does that leave your pathetic flag football team?

nonyabidness23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234387#Comment_121234387

Fair play to them hopefully more rally to stop the madness there are some here baying for blood they wont be happpy till tens of thousands are killed, there so warped mentally they believe one terrorist act allows for another, essentially give Israel a carte blanche over Gaza.

These people are monsters, devoid of humanity.

nonyabidness23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234403#Comment_121234403

Lol thats not how he expected that to go

grumpyperson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121233792#Comment_121233792

Indeed, neither do the Palestinian babies. For every one Israeli baby killed the Israeli's kill 40 Palestinian babies if the figures of 40:1 extrapolate out.

The attack by hamas was horrific but it is in the context of a people that walk to the wall every week to protest and the Israeli's shoot at them. A people that have been imprisoned and robbed of a future. The Israeli's are brutal oppressors. How anyone can condemn Hamas and support the Israeli murdering of babies in Gaza is beyond me.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121234387#Comment_121234387

They wont be happy until its 800 killed, 20 to 1, thats the historical ratio.

And people will say I stand with Israel and Israel is entitled to defend itself.

Killing children isnt self defence, its depraved.