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Sharing of vile videos

  • 29-09-2023 3:30pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭


    Got a message in the last hour on a WhatsApp group for a charity cycle organised by friend whose daughter has leukaemia. It was the Snapchat video of the woman in Offaly who was killed and it’s pretty bad stuff. Apparently this is being shared widely and lots of people are very disturbed at seeing it.

    What motivates people to share stuff like this? Taking a horrific tragedy and then amplifying it by sharing the aftermath. Surely there should be some law against this as it isn’t the first time this happened.

    Post edited by Ten of Swords on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Some people are cnuts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Human curiosity unfortunately,your post is likely to get people to start looking it up to see what happened, go to some countries they would show part of it on the main news ,

    And as much as this might be a horrific attack there is always worse content on line 24/7



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    For every video like that there is a video of those two scumbags attacking the builders. I'm glad we live in a world where bad things can be exposed but sad that it takes a video to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Huh?

    Someone shared a horrific video on a WhatsApps group for a a charity cancer cycle?

    Did you ask the person who shared it what motivated them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    Is it any different than the news networks who played videos of planes going into the twin towers on a loop for weeks on end years ago? Or how about the constant gore videos of the current war in Ukraine? People are curious creatures. You'll never stop that curiosity.

    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭dublincc2


    Lots of people are sharing it and this isn’t the only message or the video I’ve received, just it was particularly shocking to be in that group. A few other people in the group took him to task and he apologised. People don’t really think before they share these things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    It's very, very different from the Twin Towers footage, and everyone knows that.

    The OP is talking about someone on a Leukaemia charity cycle group sharing graphics footage of an identifiable individual's violent death. That's insane.

    If people want to be curious about these things, there's plenty of other groups and sub-Reddits dedicated to stuff like this. Fill yer boots.

    Thankfully, none of the groups I'm on have such "curious" individuals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Maybe he sent it to the wrong WhatsApp group?

    Only explanation I could think of for such a stupid act.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Or simply someone Chose to share it because they could.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Admin should have removed him from the group asap.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭bloopy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Its all part of uncaring Modern Ireland where people want to show they have no boundaries & couldnt give a toss about others



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    It's always been the way pal. You think people where more caring back in the 50's, 60's, 70's etc... when they looked the other way when priests raped young boys?

    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Not really, 9/11 while horrifying was a historical event that continues to be relevant to this day in terms of the direction the US went politically. It was a modern day Pearl Harbour.


    Meanwhile the video referred to is an event that led to a woman's death and something that her family most definitely do not want to be seen widely, it also runs the risk of impacting criminal trials and the Gardai have requested for it not to be shared. It's frankly voyeuristic to even want to see it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    I remember the Daniel pearl video being widely shared years ago when it happened... It's horrible but not a new thing...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    South American news channels regularly show the aftermath or CCTV of a killing including ones stemming from domestic violence,we have been pretty much sheltered such things from the time rte started broadcasting, some will cry we need to protect people from such things others will say why censor it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,029 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Everything goes on social media these days, there needs to be some punishment for recording and sharing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭BagofWeed


    Saw it on Twitter, grim, wouldn't recommend anyone to watch it and I most certainly won't share the link. I don't know if he put up a video of himself actually committing it an if he did I have zero intention of watching it. When the 18 sec video came up on twitter it took a few moments to register that it was actually real.

    But banning things has time and time again not worked. The fact that this evil teen won't even be named yet he was capable of something you wouldn't even see in a horror film is scandalous. Drink drivers, burglars, drug users named everyday so this tramp should be too.

    Another point is if you didn't see the video you would never actually imagine it or accept that we have such evil living amongst us. If I didn't see it I would just think it was some incident gone out of control but no he is an evil and sick person.

    Pray for his father and brother.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I don't really agree. I think in the past people were in general much more kinder and caring but the internet has given some people a license to be absolute utter cents.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,089 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    What so a teen murdered a person, recorded it, and stuck it up the internet?

    What a psycopath.

    Teens who kill should be named.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    again, it’s the age of the attention seekers…. And such shocking and horrifying footage will bring them notoriety, attention and to themselves, value.

    kids are conditioned by social media… share share share…. Everything from a sideways fart up to a murder is now seen as ok to share….actually not just ok but necessary..

    a simple google search… ‘ share social media ‘ brings results like….

    ‘ 15 ways to get more shares ‘

    ‘ 7 of the easiest ways to increase your social media shares ‘

    ‘ Add share buttons…’

    ‘ how to share you content in seconds ‘..

    its odd, because social media is going since the 90’s… but it seems the first generation to become totally freakishly obsessed, is now, absolute fućking weirdos…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,421 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I saw it, it's grim but I'm more worried I didn't even flinch or react to it. Are we that desensitized to extreme violence now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭steinbock123


    Did this perp record it himself, or was there a third party in the room doing the recording?

    If he recorded it himself, it shows a GIGANTIC level of premeditation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    The media are reporting it as the suspect allegedly having live-streamed "the aftermath" of the incident himself. As it is with all breaking news, we could find the reported details being refined or corrected over time. I have not seen the video.

    A teenage boy has been arrested after allegedly killing a woman in a violent incident and live-streaming the aftermath of the fatal assault on social media.


    (...)


    Distressing footage of the incident, showing the victim and her injuries as well as a weapon apparently used, was quickly shared online afterwards. Gardaí have appealed to people not to distribute the video.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    clearly a very disturbed chap, hopefully he gets help now, he ll be locked up for a long time though, central mental hospital maybe....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Yes it is. This is 1 individual being murdered. It's very different.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,615 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    No other generation had "Influencers" or literally any shíte getting monetized before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Past generations had rock'n'roll, heavy metal, films and video games being blamed for this kind of horrific acts. But the truth is that some of us are sick evil monsters, and there is no point in finding other reasons or other things to blame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...or maybe some people have very serious psychological problems, and dont have a functioning health care system that supports them and their families needs, in order to try prevent such outcomes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    It’s interesting. The intense level of rage required for the actual attack is one thing, but filming and distributing the material himself is far more interesting in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    yea its disturbing already, but as we know, not unique unfortunately



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    The entire history of the world is basically people being utterly awful to each other. There's bound to be people like this if you accept evolution. We assume our lovely soft existence now is what it waas always like but that's a fantasy and this is the outlier. No amount of apologising for people being murdering psychos qill change it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...but we do have a far greater understanding of what brings about such situations....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    You can go on to YouTube now and watch audio descriptions of murder cases in detail to cartel execution audio descriptions because yt won't allow the actual videos ,

    The only shocking thing about this was was it actually happened here but similar happens all over the world day in and day out and incases a lot more horrific than this case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    It is actually vile and we as a society have become so indifferent and de-sensitised to this kind of stuff. We go on about GDPR and privacy and yet the most horrific things with people in their dying moments are shared like a whirlwind online. To get likes, or laughs or just to be the lad who’s in the know and got the video. Stupid stuff and stupid people.

    I haven’t seen it, and I don’t want to. As I always say acts like this are simply dismissed as madness and someone needing help. But pre planning this and recording it smacks of just badness and there are predatory animals amongst us, don’t be fooled.

    I don’t know what the connection is between the lady and the attacker but if it’s what I think it is, then my heartfelt sympathies go to her family. Horrific. Is all I can say.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,381 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Mod - Nope. Thread closed

    Posts have been removed. There has been an arrest and we don't need detailed descriptions of the video contents.



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