ETIAS Travel Authorisation for Residence Permit Holders

gavmcg92

Has anyone gotten to the bottom of if a non Irish national who has a residence permit (i.e. stamp 4) would need to apply for this new ETIAS travel authorisation coming into force for the EU?

They have an FAQ where the question is answered but it doesn't really answer it from an Irish perspective.

"I come from a visa-exempt country, but I live permanently in the EU – do I need an ETIAS travel authorisation?

No. ETIAS is a travel authorisation that covers nationals of visa-exempt countries coming to the EU for short-term stays. If you have a residence permit, residence card, or a document issued by any of the European countries requiring ETIAS which authorises your stay, you do not need an ETIAS travel authorisation."

Problem with this answer is that Ireland is not in the ETIAS program, so does that mean that a residence permit holder from a visa exempt country would need to apply for an ETIAS in order to travel to continental EU for holidays?

Jim2007

Having an Irish resident permit is irrelevant as Ireland is not a member of Schengen, so yes you will need to follow the rules for third countries (The reverse is true as well for people holding permits from a Schengen member country).

gavmcg92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120928532#Comment_120928532

Ok but Irish passport holders will not need to apply for ETIAS

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120947447#Comment_120947447

Of course they won’t, but that is not the question you asked!