VW Passat 2.0 TDI Clutch & Flywheel

Jayocam

Hi all. Sorry if this has been asked before. My student son has a Passat 2009 2.0 TDI for college run. Noises coming from the Flywheel, so it and clutch are likely to be needed very soon. Getting some CRAZY quotes to change. We are in Dublin but happy to travel for the right cash price. Any ideas if there is anyone that can do this for a decent price? You can buy the kit for the clutch and flywheels for circa €350 but getting quotes of €1000 Plus......

Any help appreciated. Thanks.

Kimbot

Give www.daltons.ie a shout and see what they quote. Based in laois but do brilliant work, if I remember rightly my clutch & flywheel was around 650ish from them the last time I got it done on my golf.

GavPJ

Give John in Sur Le Pont in Johnstown Bridge near Enfield a shout.

BlakeS94

€1000+ is normal price for clutch and DMF these days. Friend of mine has a Volvo V70 that was €1800 for that job.

2.0TDI's are common among many manufacturers so price would be a bit cheaper, or not cause it's a VW.

Cheaper isn't always better for certain jobs.

User1998

If you want cheap, go to Kilkock and get a second hand flywheel, and get a more backstreet mechanic to fit it cash in hand.

I’d imagine you’ll get a flywheel for around €150, another €250 in labour maybe

I can recommend a mechanic in Tallaght if that helps.

Jayocam

Thanks guys. Is it ok to get flywheel done and leave the clutch? Clutch seems fine to be fair. Not hard and not high. Just noisy flywheel.

mk7r

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120868510#Comment_120868510

It would be absolute madness

martco

you'd have to check this fully thru for your Passat but on hearing the cost of the cursed device for a 2.0 140 Mk2 Touran I had (€800-odd even back then) it was suggested we could try throwing in a normal flywheel and....that car served me troublefree for another 50k miles until I sold it on! the risk was supposedly that there could be a wee bit more vibration leading to other issues but I never experienced any issues.

at a later point I had a T6 van - a nearly new low mileage yoke out of a proper VW dealer, highline spec - with a fupping dmf problem that broke my heart for months arguing with VW....never right and sold on in end grrr) but I digress.....

anyway good luck with it and as I said check out if a normal old school flywheel works

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120868562#Comment_120868562

Its a 14 year old car and they are trying to save money. Nothing wrong with it.

McCrack

Would make zero sense just get the flywheel done and ignore the clutch. A 14 year old car needs these maintenance things done to make it go another 14 years

standardg60

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120868792#Comment_120868792

To my mind It's poor use of a clutch that causes issues with a dmf in the first place, so I'd definitely be replacing both.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120868910#Comment_120868910

Sure, if you are planning on keeping the car long term then yeah put a new clutch & flywheel in, but in this case I think it’s fairly obvious that the car won’t be kept for another 14 years and OP just wants to get the job done as cheap as possible.

Doing a flywheel without a clutch is basically like doing a water pump without a timing belt, but if your only keeping the car for another couple of years and want to save some money then I don’t see the problem, considering the age and value of the car.

DJ5831

18 year old student here

I've got a 2010 Audi A4 with the same 2.0TDI engine

My advice is you absolutely must replace both the flywheel and the clutch kit, or you'll be paying for all that labour again in the very short future to replace the clutch. For the flywheel to be worn would itself imply poor use of the clutch over time. Personally I'm in the countryside but you're in Dublin so your local mechanics will charge more so if you can travel then you will be able to save. I went to several different mechanics and many outright refused to quote, while others quoted 2k+ to do it. I'm getting it done for 1,125 (775 parts sourced myself, 350 labour), and the next best option was 1,250. So that sort of range would be reasonable for a 2.0TDI.

It's unfortunately just one of the big expensive things that does go wrong to cars of this age/mileage and there's nothing you can do about it. I'm not sure if this is the case in Dublin but a lot of country mechanics will allow you to repay them weekly for repairs like this if you're strapped for cash.

Also, having a new clutch and flywheel will increase the resale value if you keep the invoice to prove it. By the way, do not fit 2nd hand or part-worn parts under any circumstances. It may seem like an attractive option because the car is getting old and it'd do the job for now but trust me, it'll be a big pain when you've paid a fella to fit a part and now you've to pay another lad to do the exact same job again.

Buy the 3-piece clutch kit plus a flywheel for 700ish euros and pay somebody the 300-350 to fit it, no way around it that won't come back to bite you.

wotzgoingon

Go a head with just getting the flywheel done and ask the mechanic to check the clutch(as in how much material is left). They are like brake pads and wear down from use.

Mechanic wouldn't gain much from recommending one when it is not needed as it only an extra 10 mins to change the clutch once everything is apart.

greasepalm

And the clutch snaps after a month after been told it will be fine.

mk7r

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120869119#Comment_120869119

Clutches wear in far more ways that just the friction material. The springs go soft so they don't clamp properly, the mounting for the release bearing wears, the release bearing itself can fail mechanically of hydraulically after, the center spline can break free of the friction disc leaving the car stranded (we only had one do this in last week). There is no way to check a clutch unfortunately

BlakeS94

If the flywheel has been rattling, chances are the clutch friction disc is bollocksed anyway. Just take the hit and do the whole lot, it's painful, but it's a false economy to not change out everything while the gearbox is being opened up and it'll probably come back to bite you ( pun intended )

I'm off to put brand new discs on my car but leave the bare metal pads alone.

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120868682#Comment_120868682

We went the same route with ours back in 2010, replaced the DMF for a solid flywheel with the same provisio from the mechanic. I think it brought the total price down from 1100 to 900.

1percent

Graham Walker in Harold's Cross is very good, he has done work on my 09 2.0 TDi passat in the past. May not be the cheapest but by god does he do good work. I've 380k km up on the clock and she is still going strong. With propper care his passat will keep going and going and going so well worth putting the grand into the clutch and DMF.

Worth chaning the oil every 6months and a long motorway run once a month/6weeks if she only sees city driving normaly.

Also invest time to teach the young fella how not to ride the clutch, it is either in or out, never held in the middle.