Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Should I get one?

Ger22

Hi. I'm thinking of getting a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, either the 2.0L or 2.4L version, about 2017-2018. They look like a nice car and have a lot of features for the money (I'm male, 30 btw).

My question is, is it worth my while getting it? I don't do much driving during the week. Just pottering around the town a little. At the weekends, I usually do a 60-70km drive each way. The roads are mixed from back roads to regional roads to motorway. I'll have the opportunity to charge between journeys.

Does this car still make sense? Or is the 70km journey a bit long for the PHEV and I'm looking at it being quite inefficient and thirsty on petrol then?

Any advice appreciated. Thanks.

ELM327

Journey is too long, the phev will be long gone from electricity and will be on 30mpg petrol

kanuseeme

I had one for 2.5 years, I found on the longer journeys it was 7 l /100km or 40 mpg, if you potter around for 60/70 km during the week your average would go up to 80 mpg.

For the 140 km round trip, I would expect about 50 mpg with just one charge, keep the battery for slow driving switch over to engine on the motor way and switch back to battery to arrive home at 0%. its just a press of a button.

Think of getting one again for my next car.

Get phev watch dog and a obdii they recommend, test the battery, its not really the battery thats the problem but the bms, it drops the SOH of the battery regularly without any reason, the bms can be reset in a garage or at home.

Ger22

Thanks ELM327 - I'd be thinking I wouldn't just use the electric motors until they run out and then switch to petrol. I'd let the car decide what is most efficient (use electric when slow, swap to petrol when required) and take advantage of the motors recharging with the regenerative breaking.

kanuseeme - That's sort of what I was thinking in terms of figures. Averaging 80mpg on 60/70km journeys wouldn't be too bad I think. For a vehicle of nearly 2T, the 40mpg doesn't sound terrible either I guess.

User1998

Sounds like it would be a good purchase if your willing to charge it every day or every second day

Stevie2001

Depends on the price I suppose, a 5 or 6 year old Outlander battery could be very degraded at this point, might be lucky to get even 20km out of it on electric, not a great battery in them

I don't really see the advantage of it vs a diesel that's 10c cheaper per litre and much more efficient or vs a full electric vehicle

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120748266#Comment_120748266

Manually selecting petrol or electric mode means you make the most of home electricity as in x miles from home change to electricity only ensuring battery is nearly flat when you arrive home maximising home charging. In auto mode you may arrive home with a 100% petrol charged battery rather than a 0% battery that can be filled for cheap at home.

I have never owned one but electric only real world range can be very short (maybe 30km) and outside of that fuel consumption can be surprisingly high. The total savings on very short EV trips may be a bit pointless if you have bear zero daily commute.

Note Mitsubishi have pulled out if Europe. In theory you should be able to get parts etc but may have trouble servicing or repairs.

Full EVs can have 300+km range and total cost of ownership may be lower if you consider EVs may hold their value while PHEV may be in little demand shortly. Depreciation is a massive cost of ownership particularly if you do tiny mileage.

In general they are known as a good car but very thirsty on long trips.

iniall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120749804#Comment_120749804

I had a 2016 Outlander until very recently and the battery was in great shape - regularly got 40km out of it. Really liked that car. Only thing I don’t miss is plugging it in often multiple times a day to avoid using the petrol engine.

celtic_oz

I considered one of these till I found out they were semi pulling out of Europe and was concerned about parts and support, think they have some half assed deal with Renault but maybe its ok ?