Exterior painting of house - advice needed

newportlad

Hi all,

the back and side of our house is in bad need of painting and hoping to get some basic advice on this as there is a lot of peeling at the side of house and not sure if I should just ask a professional or is there some I could do myself. Pics attached that will hopefully help

sniperman

WELL FIRST YOU NEED TO SCRAP OF ALL THE LOOSE STUFF,OR GET IT POWER WASHED,THEN COAT WITH STABILIZING PRIMER,THAT WILL BOND AND STOP ANY MORE FLAKING/PEELING,THEN 2 COATS OF PAINT,THATS IT,

newportlad

Is there a particular primer and outdoor paint you would recommend?

ratracer

Consider the following:

How keen/ experienced are you at painting, and how much time do you have to spend on doing it?

Do you have a ladder to reach the top of the gable end wall? Do you already have rollers/ brushes dust sheets etc, and a power washer?

To do the job properly, you’ll need to first apply a fungicidal wash ( to kill the black mold/ spores). This gets brushed or sprayed on the whole wall, left overnight, then come back and power wash the walls. After this, you need to use a wire brush and scraper to remove any loose paint. Then put on a stabilising solution to create a bond, followed by two coats of exterior paint.

It’s a slow laborious job, but can be rewarding to look back on afterward if you enjoy DIY, otherwise I’d just get a painter. Consider the costs of both, particularly if you have to hire ladders, power washer etc.

I’ve just done mine this week, it looks great, but took me four days ( it’s a detached house though, so more walls 😒), and was harder than any day I’ve done at work 😂😂

ratracer

I’ve always used Dulux Weathershield paint and also used Dulux fungicidal wash this time.

Colourtrend or Fleetwood are also good options.

sniperman

bleach can be used to kill mold,diluted,any stabilizing primer will do,just ask in the shop and explain what you are doing,also any of the named paints are good,just ask for outdoor paints,and yes there is a bit of work involved,enjoy

munsterfan2

We hired a cherry picker / hoist over a bank holiday weekend and managed one under coat and 2 coats of paint last August. ( and weather didnt cooperate ). Lot safer / easier / quicker than ladder. Something like https://www.droghedahire.com/products/11-6m-38ft-articulated-electric-boom-lift

BOBIDGE

I'm in a very similar situation.

I used Sandtex in the previous property which worked very well.

Now, the new property has to flaking, without the mould. Is the stabilising primer still necessary or can I just do two coats of paint?

Reading conflicting things regarding stabilising primer. If recommended, would something like this do the job?

https://www.diy.ie/departments/valspar-trade-exterior-pink-stabilising-solution-5l-5-29kg/5055018189914_BQ.prd?storeId=1259&gclid=CjwKCAjwsvujBhAXEiwA_UXnANTlq8OeGxYW2pIZdeNmtPo4esFUz3yfaUHAlS5rwW4dSs_Pm4mcExoCZyIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Thanks

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120681349#Comment_120681349

There are quite a number of masonry stabilisers available, a local paint show might be best off telling you which ones are best on the basis of what their contractors use.

Some very good info here:

https://decorator.uk/stabilising-solution-when-to-use-it-and-when-to-not

BOBIDGE

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120681400#Comment_120681400

Thanks, I'll do that.

Sorry to hijack thread but getting (again) conflicting advise 're stabilising primer.

I'll attach photos if anyone has any advice. The problem is isolated to our house, with all houses in immediate area affected.

We recently moved in so just getting around it now. One wall, as photographed, is particularly bad!

StrawbsM

A few houses in my estate (mine included) have issues with the paint flaking off within 12 months of application.

We’re now on year 3 with no issues using the following-

* Scraped and brushed down every inch of the external walls not just the areas that were flaking

*Applied Johnstone’s Stormshield Stabilising Solution. Didn’t skimp on application and reapplied where flaking was previously bad.

* Colour-matched dulux colours into Johnstone’s Stormshield Smooth Masonry.

It seems that in our case it’s more about the preparation and primer rather than the brand of masonry paint. We prepped it ourselves and it was seriously hard work and using a ladder up to the highest point is not for the faint hearted 😂

I would not recommend power washing as if you have an issue with the plasterwork (we believe we have) the power washer is too forceful and will leave tracks that can be seen after painting

Edit: changed primer details

monseiur

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120681476#Comment_120681476

Would not advise scraping off flaking paint & power washing during the current dry spell. Wait until after a few days of rain when paint is soft - it will just peel off. You will get twice the work done with half the effort. Also never paint in direct sunlight, an overcast day is best ....an we will get more that our share of them ! This is Ireland after all 😊

moceri

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120681476#Comment_120681476

I would tidy up that plastering around the air-vent to get it flush with the render. There is also a creeping crack line to the window which needs filling.

beachhead

This thread reminds me to try some outdoor mtce before the summer ends.

beachhead

Woodies will be busy.Can anyone recommend products to revarnish a garage door.Hasn't been repainted in years

wait4me

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120681176#Comment_120681176

@munsterfan2 Can you give me an indication of what the hire of this cost for the weekend? PM me if you want - thanks

Cerco

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120681126#Comment_120681126

I would add "how confident are you at using a ladder safely at the height required?" If you are not experienced using ladders then think twice.

happyoutscan

So on a newish built home (4 years) that has not been primed/painted I would need to:

1st - Use a stabilising primer

2nd - Paint

The western gable is showing a small trace of 'reddish' through the plaster. Would this need to be scraped off or just primed over?

Any other advice greatly appreciated!

(Apologies for hijacking)

sniperman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120681349#Comment_120681349

yes

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120691345#Comment_120691345

1 - Prime it with watered-down paint (up to 25 or 30% water), no need for a stabilising primer unless you have loose material on the surface!

TheBody

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120686199#Comment_120686199

Me too please!

munsterfan2

400eur for hire from Thursday to Tuesday

wait4me

Delivered? Or did you have to transport it?

munsterfan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120694686#Comment_120694686

Delivered ( about 14km), they dropped off early Thursday as were busy, collected on the Tuesday morning

Dave_D_Rave

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120691466#Comment_120691466

Similiar to above 4 year old house but have some hairline cracks in the plaster which currenty have weed / fungal growth.

What is the best approach here?

Apply fungal wash / power hose to remove ?

Willl paint fill the hairline cracks or isthere some bonding / primer that I should use ?