Internal cable rattle

pegdrums

Just picked my new bike on Saturday, trek domane al2 disc. Initially was d been looking at the rim brake version but went with disc as it can take wider tyres so do some light trail work with a decent set of tyres down the road

problem is the noise!! No review I watched or read mentioned this. All 3 internal cables clatter around.

have any of ye got any cheap fixes for this? A few I’ve watched on YouTube put foam around cable housing the full length of it.

that’s fine but your stuffed when it’s time to change that cable housing I guess.

im actually contemplating returning the bike and getting the rim brake version….. so much more straightforward

any suggestions welcome 🙏

nicksnikita

I’m after stripping a di2 bike and to prevent rattling on that on, lots of cable ties were placed along the internal part of the cabling. Maybe that could work?

Rim all the way...

pegdrums

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120655016#Comment_120655016

100% Initially was going for the rim version. I will say having a 32mm tyre not a 25 is noticeably more comfortable.

But all these solutions like the zip ties you mentioned will be a pain in the hole when replacing outer cable which you'll have to eventually.

Just inspecting the entry/ exit points there and where cable leave downtime near BB the outer is ALREADY starting to chafe....45km on the bike!

Rim version is also a til lighter according to website.

I'll ring shop tomorrow and see if they'll do a swap.

I've loads of spares for a rim bike, nice wheels and tiagra callipers.

Kinda bummed I didn't discover all this while geeking out before buying

Idleater

Randomly came across a video on this today

https://youtu.be/oBWhBM7KEoQ

Mefistofelino

One approach, which can be

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120655398#Comment_120655398

It doesn't even have to be as complicated as that. You can now get foam sleeves ( like miniature versions of the foam insulation on water pipes). If like a lot of bikes with internal cabling, there an access panel under the bb shell, you can push the foam sleeve over the outer and up into the down tube.

pegdrums

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120655398#Comment_120655398

Mad, Only saw that earlier after an angry panicky search on YouTube! First world problem I know but seems like such a silly, gonna ask local bike shop if I can swap it for rim version I think. First choice should always be trusted!!

pegdrums

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120655398#Comment_120655398

Its a good idea btw. There's a few similar to this. My concern is how does the foam stuff or whatever you se come out? It's bottom bracket off to get all the foamy bits inside your downtube out.

Internal cabling was the one feature I couldn't have cared less about when choosing the bike and it's the one feature that is a pain in my arse now. It's annoying on a 5km commute, sportif's are gonna be fun!

Idleater

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120655704#Comment_120655704

Rim brakes will still have a rattle in the frame. What I thought was interesting was the zip ties and heat shrink both making noise. I was googling as I have a rim brake rattle I want to silence.

nicksnikita

If the wider tyres are important to you, I’m sure the bike shop will have a solution to the cable rattle issue and may sort it free of charge as part of first check/service or whatever 👍

pegdrums

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120655681#Comment_120655681

That's an issue on my bike ya see, there's no access panel by BB, it's almost like a small secondary downtube that the cables pop out of. I'll put up a pic tomorrow. That's where the cables are already chafing. And where cables enter frame near headstock there's no removable bit, just holes which are only slightly larger than the cables.

pegdrums

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120655780#Comment_120655780

Sorry, should have stated, the rim brake version has no internal cable routing. Just a nice straightforward bicycle a whole kilo lighter than the disc brake version.

pegdrums

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120655898#Comment_120655898

Yea it's worth asking them, they are a nice bunch. I'll ring them tomorrow and see what the craic is.

cletus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120655900#Comment_120655900

Cables on my bike are routed the same way. I had a rattle to begin with, but I was missing a rubber grommet from the entry point for one of the cables. Went back to the shop, they gave me one, and I've had no noise since.

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120656313#Comment_120656313

I had the same with my beautiful bike and it was a grommet had become loose. Clicked it back in, problem went away.

pegdrums

I’ll pop in to the shop on the way home, there aren’t any rubber grommets on any of the three angry points.

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120658217#Comment_120658217

Sorry mine are plastic and specifically for the entry point, but I do remember a co worker had rubber grommets along his cable to stop the ting as it hit the frame internally or externally but I suspect that was his own additions

cletus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120658296#Comment_120658296

Mine were for the entry points too, and one was missing, the other two were there.

pegdrums

Just back from LBS, who kindly took it in to workshop to see what they could do. Slight improvement. They put a bit of rubber hosing and a cable tie on the outside of the frame just before cables enter the frame to help limit the movement. Unfortunately it still clatters away when riding along just slightly less often.

cletus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120659026#Comment_120659026

Could you take a picture of the entry point for the cables?

pegdrums

top of downtube

pegdrums

bottom of downtube

hesker

At first I thought there was a missing grommet but it seems not.

IMG_2551.jpeg

hesker

Try this stuff. If you can’t figure out how to use it I’d ask the place where you bought the bike to fit it.

https://www.wiggle.com/ie/p/lifeline-internal-routing-anti-vibration-foam

pegdrums

Cheers, ordered a pack of similar stuff, jag wire do it too but each section is 100mm longer, was a euro more I think.

Also found a foam thing like a pool noodle or too rack foam thingy. Its only a few mm thick, the same circumference as the down tube so would have plenty of space for cables......if I could squeeze it up through that tiny opening by BB. Basically it would sit flush against the inside of the downtube, like a foam liner. Could be a plan B.

Loving this bike though, most comfortable bicycle Ive ever had.

pegdrums

That photo you sent.....its a silly design isn't it? I might try squeeze a rubber o ring in their, the cable outer will wear quicker than it should as it rubs the opening.