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What is tripping my RCD?

  • 08-04-2023 7:42am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭


    Hi all. I live in a 20 year old house, never had any problems with the electrics before but recently the power keeps tripping. It happens approximately once or twice each week, at random times but more often than not it seems to be a nighttime when all five of us in the house are asleep. All I can think of is that it must be the fridge. Other than that the only thing that has changed was getting a couple of extra sockets fitted in a converted room about six months ago. Any ideas?, am I missing something or do I need to get the fridge looked at? Many thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    It could be related to the extra wiring

    Hard to say really without testing

    Damp is always a possibility



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    How about, if on separate breaker, eliminate new install and monitor for a week or two...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,071 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Any external lights or sockets added?

    I always find that these are the most common cause of RCD trips, specifically after rain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    Any breaker go down with the RCD? Just wondering to narrow it down to which area in the house is tripping and then to pin point the device if it is a device that is causing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭meercat


    I’d usually look at the immersion first

    as kirk said,hard to tell without testing



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭BlazingSaddler


    Thanks all. No, no breaker down with the RCD. I’ve tried isolating the immersion and it has tripped with the immersion off. It happened again last night at around 4am. As all in the house asleep all I can think of is the fridge. Would this be the only appliance that could cause a ‘surge’ when turned on but not in use?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Do you have a water softener in the house? They'll usually do a regen at night.

    It could be anything though and you'll probably have to leave off a breaker at a time if it's happening every night to try and narrow down the area the fault is in. Also could be a faulty sensor light wired off off a socket circuit coming on at night.

    Fridge will be on an off all day so I doubt it's that but could be a possibility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Dunno about switching off breakers , could be there forever

    Trial and error works alright when the rcd won't reset ,not so much on random trips

    Post edited by kirk. on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    I isolated same problem to an old brick shed. Probably 20 years old. Problem started work the severe cold a few weeks back. Haven't tested it lately, just left the switch off. Anyone think it will heal itself with the warmer weather?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,071 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    It will get worse with the April and May showers before it gets better anyhow. I wouldn't be depending on a good drying day for electrical safety. 🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    True, thought it was a regular nightly thing.

    There's not many more options though for OP going solo. Perhaps try unplugging appliances but obviously not the fridge/freezer 🙈 Do you run the dishwasher or washing machine at night? I know some do now with the smart metering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Eldudeson


    I had the same problem previously. The RCD would trip about once a month. It was driving me crazy until one day it went and wouldn't reset. After plugging out all the appliances one by one, it was the fridge! After replacing the fridge, there hasn't been a trip since.

    It's very tough to diagnose when it happens so far apart.


    Edit: Forgot to say that it was recommended that I replace the RCD itself. There's always a chance that it's the part that's faulty. I did that first but it wasn't my issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Could be just damp outside , sockets, joints

    Needs a rec to test the wiring insulation resistance, and ramp test rcd and even leakage testing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Mr321


    Do you have a private well as your water mains OP?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    OP do you have exposed cables in the roof? Can you take a look and see what condition they are in? 4am in the morning with nothing else obviously tripping the RCD would have me wondering about rodents taking a nibble at the cables?

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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