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Coillte and the land sell off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭bigroad

    Must be no Irish investors interested ,or were they even asked.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭the kelt

    But all the private forestry companies in the country have been doing this for years. Foreign investment funds using their expertise/money to invest in irish forestry. The forestry company gets a fee for doing the works, the investment fund reaps the rewards.

    Its basically Coillte doing exactly the same. Coillte cant invest as much because they cant draw down grants and premiums like everyone else can.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭Marcos

    It stinks big time. Look at the opposition anger at this, SF, Social Democrats and even Labour.

    If it turns out at a late date that corruption was involved that would be extremely concerning.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.

  • Registered Users Posts: 31,643 ✭✭✭✭listermint

    But the ESB operate just fine financing stuff.

    It smells, frankly.

    As I said in the opener I simply can't see how they aren't able to do this on their own steam. Plenty of asset value funding should be a doddle.

    What exactly is the real benefit to the taxpayer here.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭redlough

    The opposition are angry over everything but once you ask them for an alternative they suddenly get very quiet. Hurlers from the ditch is the best expression.

    Did they offer an alternative or just complain about the current one? from what I seen it was the usual moan

    P.S. Im not saying Coillte are right by the way in how this has been run.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭thinkabouit

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,985 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious

    Planters trying to sneak back in after all these years

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo

    Well we've opened up housing to these vulture funds, why not Forestry, it's the FFG way.

    Do I remember something from the Celtic Tiger era about FFG politicians being very involved with Coillte financially?

    I think this needs to bring attention to how we manage our forestry too. These Sitka plantations look like lovely greenery from afar but if you walk through them it's like a dead zone. Nothing else really grows or lives within. Land is pretty unusable after a few plantings. Not a bit carbon friendly.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo

  • Registered Users Posts: 31,643 ✭✭✭✭listermint

    Alternate plan for what ?

    What exactly is all of this for ?

    Why does their need to be a plan to sell of lands to anyone. Call me confused but we got shafted with the lotto sale they're making money hand over fist in Canadian pension fund. Laughing at our sales stall.

    Where does this stuff originate from.

  • A class of shite top public servants with no experience of the real world, and insulated from reality by overly generous salaries, perks and pensions.

    We need to fire all top public servants and have them re-interview for their positions.

    Bear in mind that there was a massive clear out of public servants in the wake of the last economic collapse-those who made mistakes and probably learned from the got the boot, the asslickers, sycophants and compliant stayed.