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Sheep grazing rights in national parks

  • 13-01-2023 10:34am
    #1
    getoutadodge
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    I notice that sheep farmers seem to have free access for their herds to graze Wicklow National Park and Nephin in MW Mayo. Presumably this applies to all the national parks and Coillte land too. Any idea why ? Some historical right of access? Same applies to Croagh Patrick which I know is not a national park ...but should be.



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  • #2
    Timfy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Timfy


    I cannot speak definitively about the specific examples given but certainly in my corner of North West Connemara much of the designated National Parklands are still under private ownership. The slopes of Mweelrea, areas of the Maumturks and Party mountains as well as the Connemara National park itself would fall under Commonage laws, with multiple sheep farmers having access to the areas, following fairly strict rules of total flock numbers and animal density etc

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  • #3
    getoutadodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭getoutadodge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120102221#Comment_120102221

    Txs for that. Any idea how these "commonage Laws " work....with a view to ending them. There should be no commercial grazing in a national park I would have thought....or the landscape can never recover from a century plus of overgrazing.



  • #4
    Count Dracula
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    Ahem, did you not ask the sheep what they think?



  • #5
    Packrat
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    Another - "let's try to steal someone else's private property because I'm too poor/lazy to get my own" thread.

    Yawn. Won't be happening.


    Edit to add: Most national parks strictly prohibit domestic animal grazing as do Coilte, so you presume wrong

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • #6
    maninasia
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    Is commonage private property ?


    Not so thick question is it.


    Eventually grazing will be banned in many areas, it will happen sooner or later.



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  • #7
    getoutadodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭getoutadodge


    I found this so far on commonages. Wow.,,,a million acres of it countrywide. All private property. Seems the National Parks have to tread lightly in this matter...otherwise adios national park. The National Parks are in effect tenants to be tolerated. Any overt griping about grazing etc etc ...and you're out. It explains much about the lack of ambition of the NPWS.

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/there-is-little-common-ground-on-irelands-commonages-and-a-one-size-fits-all-approach-wont-work/

    https://www.npws.ie/research-projects/agri-environment-research/commonage-framework-planning




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