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Parking Ticket Appeal

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    those white lines looks very pay and display

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭wench


    If you change the street view to 2009, there used to be a sign on that side too.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭chunkylover4


    Not a ground to appeal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Put in an appeal anyway, I did once for a ticket I received in Dundalk where a loading bay sign was missing from one end, so not able to tell where the parking ended and the loading bay began. It was successful based on missing signage.

    Also it didn't cost me anything to appeal. ( Years ago mind! )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,764 ✭✭✭cml387


    I was going to say that one would assume that pay and display applied to both sides by default, but I was in Dungarvan once and told that on one street only one side had a pay and display requirement. So I'd try.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭davetherave


    Not a lawyer but looking through the Galway City Council parking byelaws


    Under definitions they have -

    “Ticket Parking Place” means a place on a public road or a car park where traffic sign or signs No. RRM 011, RRM 012, RRM 013, RRM 014, No.RRM 016 and or RUS 018 authorised by the Signs Regulations of 1997 together with an accompanying information plate(s) indicates or indicate that parking of vehicles is subject to the exhibition of a Valid Pay and Display Parking Ticket


    From the Google Streetview images they have used RRM 016 ground markings ( Parallel Parking - Continuous parking, not marked into individual bays, RRM 016)

    The Department of Transport Traffic Signs Manual Chapter Seven covers Road Markings

    https://assets.gov.ie/21647/97642d8c44454b2da7cd6a95c04dbce1.PDF

    7.6.8 In all cases, two continuous terminal markings 100mm apart indicate the limits of the length of road reserved for vehicle parking. A single continuous transverse line should be used to mark the ends of individual parking spaces (RRM 011 and RRM 012). Where individual bays are not demarcated (RRM 016) a continuous longitudinal line marks the outer edge of the parking area. Where appropriate, parking signs (RUS 018 and/or RUS 019) should be mounted at the kerbside to indicate the extents and periods during which parking is permitted and/or prohibited.


    If there is no accompanying information plate alongside the road markings is it still valid?



  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,781 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    As above, there's little to lose putting in an appeal. It might not be overturned but there's at least a stateable ground that there was no signage indicating that side was also pay and display.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,647 ✭✭✭✭Victor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,233 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    The arrows on the sign either side of the P indicate that it’s paid parking fro, the left oh the pole and the right of the pole. Location of Manchin is irrelevant


    apologies. You were on the other side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭ConorC1


    Put in an appeal and it was rejected! They sent me back a picture of my car with the pay and display sign in the background. Albeit on the other side of the road !



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,647 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    You are entitled to appeal further.

    If the appeal you just received back was decided by the clamping operator, you can appeal to the council.

    If the appeal you just received back was decided by the council, you can go to the National Transport Authority. https://www.nationaltransport.ie/vehicle-clamping-regulation/

    Where you may get stuck is the road markings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭ConorC1


    It's €40 (well probably gone up to €60 by now) so i might just suck it up and pay. It was a pay and display ticket not a clamp



  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,781 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    The clock should stop for the duration of any appeal. As in if you've 28 days to pay but put in an appeal after 11 days, you'd still have 17 days left after the outcome. If you get another appeal in, it will stop the clock again.

    Obviously it's time/effort for you to appeal and it's for you to judge whether it's a justifiable way to spend your time/effort but if it was me I'd chance my arm on the off chance I might get the benefit of the doubt. If not, you should be able to still pay the €40.



  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,781 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭ConorC1


    Fine has gone to €60. Was informed the clock doesn't stop during the appeal process as well. This seems very unfair given that appeals take 7 to 10 working days. Nearly as if they are doing it intentionally to make more €€



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭kennethsmyth


    Then keep going, its worth appealing now even more. The fact the photo was of your car with the sign on the other side of the road means they knew there was an issue. Look up Joe Lycett and how he appealed - this smacks of that scenario. :)



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