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Ireland Critical skills work permit application refused-reason job title Finance Manager & under 64K

  • 01-11-2022 7:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2


    Hi all

    I am new here and I just had my work permit application for critical skills refused by the Minister of Enterprise, Trade & Employment under the Employment Permits Act,2006 as amended by the Employment Permits (Amendment) Act 2014. For the second time.

    Reason:

    1. The information received was that minimum annual remuneration is under €64,000.

    2. The category of employment is not one of the employment specified in regulation 18(1)(a) and Schedule 3 of the Employment Permits Regulations 2017 (S.I. No. 95 of 2017) (as amended) eligible for a Critical Skills Employment Permit with this level of remuneration. Please note that the occupation in question is not on the Critical Skills Occupations List. In line with section 12(3) of the Employment Permits Act 2006 (as amended) an employment permit cannot be issued.

    Note:

    I work for a small company and I am the only person responsible for all the finance operations (bookkeeping, accounts receivable and payable management, VAT returns, budgets, forecasts, management reports, and ad hoc tasks etc.). As a small business of 6 people, the CEO and COO consider the role of Finance Manager as a fit title. As I am the only one in the finance department.

    I earn 34K plus some benefits, my highest qualification is a Master of Science in Finance, I am a part qualified accountant (studying ACCA) with 1.8 years in an accountancy practice and 1.8 years in a financial services firm. Additionally, I am studying a complete finance analyst course at the moment.

    Would it be ideal to change my employment title to finance analyst on my third application attempt for a critical skills work permit?

    Post edited by Spear on


Comments

  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,758 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Moved to a forum that's related to the topic instead.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    You can change the title any way you like, but the reason you have been reject is because you don't meet the requirements of the act and furthermore according to the Eurostats figures there is not EU/EEA/CH wide shortage of bookkeepers etc... Schedule 3: Requires you to hold a professional qualification in finance which you don't and Schedule 4: requires you to be of senior management rank with a corresponding salary, which you don't.

    Another thing to keep in mind is that these guys keep records - so sending in the same application with a different title won't impress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 AvaSatiVaLomu


    You won't get a critical skills permit with such a low salary. You need a general employment permit, Stamp 1. Either you or your employer would have to pay for the permit, through the Department fo Enterprise & Trade - https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/working_in_ireland/employment_permits/work_permits.html#ld1a9a.

    Alternatively, if you're a trainee accountant in good standing with ACCA and your business is registered with a Professional Accountancy Body, look into getting Stamp 1A instead - https://www.irishimmigration.ie/coming-to-study-in-ireland/professional-training-accountancy/.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    For critical skills permit, the rule is: "If you're not on the list, you're not getting in". If you've been rejected twice, it seems unlikely that they will disregard all of the information already provided when assessing your third application just because the job title has been changed.

    Your post makes it sound like you're already working in a company in Ireland despite having been refused a work permit twice. Unless you're on a working holiday authorisation or have a temporary permit as a recent graduate, that means both you & your employer are breaking the law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 FinanceNormad


    @Jim2007 ,@AvaSatiVaLomu , @[Deleted User]

    Thank you very much for your reply. I really appreciate your help. I will have a chat with my employer and I will work on applying for the last time and I am legally in the country so that's fine for now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 sonia167


    Hi @FinanceNormad Actually my brother finished his degree in MSc Accounting and Finance from Dundee university, we also thinking to apply for Critical Skill permit in ireland as someone is willing to offer him a job etc etc. Our concern is what job tile he should select so there are less chances to get the application refused. Any tips from your side, Appreciate your help



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 lemon tree


    Hi, I meet the same problem now. Have you solved this? Can I ask what position you are now? Many thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,218 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    There are legal people that specialise in assisting people applying for employment permits. They may be expensive but they do work.

    There is no secret sauce here people, you are told exactly why you are refused, deal with those reasons and reapply. Your previous applications are stored and if you try and change your job description with the same company you may find it difficult to get permit.

    @sonia167 - Accountants are eligible for the CSEP.



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