Are we a Narco State?

Its_not_lupus

I can't post links but There was a story in the Indo today about Jonathan Dowdall, the Hutch/Kinahan Feud etc which included the following as part of the story.

"Yesterday, armed gardaí converged on a house in Coolock, where they spotted the three gang members in a car. When gardaí moved to confront them, the three men jumped out of the vehicle and ran into a house carrying a bag. However, following a stand-off it is understood that gardaí were ordered to withdraw from the scene."

Can someone see that happening in another so called developed society? They were just left be? What was in the bag? Who called them off? Why?

What is going on here?

Ubbquittious

There is fcuk all production bar the odd weed growhouse, even that is smallscale compared to other places. We only have a few parasitic resellers of the stuff and having a few petty scuffles. There's a long way to go before becoming a narco state

topdecko

posted twice then erased my comment. glitch in matrix. we are nowhere near a narco sate. ireland murder rate 0.7/ 100k vs Mexico at 28.9/100k and people being beheaded and bodies hung on motorway bridges etc. All countries have corrupt cops, politicians etc as drugs lucrative business but serious stretch to call us a narco state.

Its_not_lupus

Sure but if the OCG's can just operate freely regardless of the volume they're engaging in and Law Enforcement (armed response unit no less) just withdraws and allows them to carry on then it seems that the people in authority are either afraid, powerless or corrupt. The latter making us a Narco state if that's the case.

igCorcaigh

Their "empire" will be brought down easily when we modernise our drug laws. Still pretty small scale stuff compared to other countries. I'd be more concerned about corruption at the State and Gardai level tbh.

Its_not_lupus

But to just "withdraw" is bizarre. Doesn't make sense.

Its_not_lupus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119687254#Comment_119687254

Hence the reason I posted it as a question with a hint of sensationalism and a little skeptical.

There's people who think the Gardai were involved in the Regency shooting and there's a conspiracy surrounding it.

So I thought we should freely talk about it.

BTW seeing as how you were wondering, this is my first post on this account but I'm here elsewhere and have been since 2006. This topic is outside my usual field however.

billyhead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119687260#Comment_119687260

They didn't have a warrant to enter the house.

Its_not_lupus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119687387#Comment_119687387

Is that what happened? What about exigent circumstances or whatever? If the Gardai are chasing a criminal and they run into a house surely they can go in after them? I'm not a Barrister or a Guard so I don't know.

Victor

https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-hutch-kinahan-feud-jonathan-dowdall-5880715-Sep2022/

"Gardaí chased after them and confronted them inside. Nothing of note was found in a search of the men and the house, sources said."

Its_not_lupus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119687448#Comment_119687448

That was in Cabra. The story I'm talking about was in Coolock. It's a footnote as part of that same story in the Indo.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-alert-as-hutch-crime-gang-associates-turn-up-at-the-home-of-jonathan-dowdall-42028134.html

Its_not_lupus

It's odd how it's reported within the same story so it must be linked or else it's a mistake.

Victor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119687468#Comment_119687468

No. "It’s understood the three went to the Dowdall-linked house in Cabra and later returned to a house in the north Dublin suburb"

Its_not_lupus

So one of the stories is wrong. Either they stood down like the Indo says or they did what the other article says. I'd hope and assume the latter is the correct one, the one you posted because it was the whole "stood down" part of the Indo article that made me make this post in the first place because it sounded so weird. The one you posted makes much more sense.

*edited for extra context.

Beasty

We do not need a second thread discussing the Dublin Gangland scene

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