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Weekly commute

  • 23-09-2022 10:10am
    Registered Users Posts: 866 ✭✭✭

    My weekly communte totals about 650km.

    I'm currently driving a 10 year old i30, spending approx €70 a week on diesel.

    I'd like to change to electric, what would be best for me?

    I dont want a brand new car, what should i be looking for in the second hand market?

    Is there anything suitable for < €20k?


  • Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭sh81722

    As usual: can you fit a charger at an exclusive parking space at home or work or both? What's the daily commuting distance and speeds? If it's motorway all the way at 120 km/h you need more battery than if it was all stop and go at M50 (for example).

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 35,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo

    I’m more impressed that €70 diesel gets you 650km 🤣

    I filled up our 520d yesterday, €108 and the dash said 815km! Won’t do near that!

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 35,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo

    650/5=130km per day.

    So 65km each trip.

    Is it all motorway or back roads or stop start traffic?

    Do you have charging at work? Access to an outdoor 3 pin socket even?

    Can you install a charger at home?

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭Red Silurian

    So you need a car that can do 130km on one charge for less than 20k?

    I see on donedeal there are a few Zoe40s and Leaf30s going for 15-20k asking. They should be ok. There are also 2 Leaf40's which would definitely cover your 130km, with change, asking price for them is 20k-21k so slightly above what you're hoping for

  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Mike2006

    Almost the exact commute that I have and my 130kms is made up of ~20kms of motorway and the rest is a mix of 100 and 80km/hr.

    I use 157kms of displayed range to cover this 130kms - driving efficiency over the 130kms was 82%.

    A few points:

    130kms is a decent distance (you already know this) and at least for me there is always some more driving thrown in during the week like going to the shop or taking myself or kids to training etc, so in reality you need a 150km/day range - during the summer.

    During the winter you will need to allow for this to use anywhere up to 225km/day of range for the same distance.

    So regardless of what range car you buy, this is at least how much charge you will need to be able to get into your car each day/night.

    If you have charging at work then that is great as you can likely charge to 100% each day at work (whether it is free or you have to pay).

    If you do not have a charging facility at work, then you will need a proper home charger as the granny cable (13A or 3kW/hr max) is not workable in reality. Even if it was, you would need to charge during the evening as well as at night and therefore charging would cost more.

    Something under 20k to serve your needs. I would be doubtful - but there are others on here who are always looking at the second hand market who can advise you a lot better on that bit...

    Best of luck with the search. Don't underestimate your needs or you will not stick with it...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 866 ✭✭✭Delboy5

    Thanks all, yes my commute is approx. 65km each way every day.

    None of the commute is motorway, mostly all national roads, 100km/h when i can.

    I don't have a home charger but no issue with getting one installed. Work place also has 4 free charging bays, 3 are empty every day i pass them.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,043 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin

    I feel like a Leaf40 should do the job and if you keep your eye out you can probably get one around your savings

    Factor in your savings into the budget. If work has free charging then your fuel cost could go to zero, so that's €3,500 saved on diesel alone

    With those savings perhaps you could afford to take a small loan or something for a year to cover a bigger purchase price

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 35,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo

    The pretty much any EV for sale will cover you.

    Do you have a specific type you like the look of?

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1

    I had similar, a Leaf 30 will do that, you may have squeaky bum time in depths of Winter but no problem whatsoever 10months of the year. Look for late 2016/into 2017 models and check battery SOH.

    Otherwise, Ioniq28 which will give you greater range but at more expense..

    Then onto Leaf40 etc etc etc

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭eagerv

    Sounds like a classic Ioniq 28kWh would suit, only problem is like other EVs they are hard to come by..

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,190 ✭✭✭✭ELM327

    Suggesting Ioniq28 here. I sold one recently to a fellow boardsie, the second such Ioniq28 I had and sold to the boards clan!

  • Registered Users Posts: 866 ✭✭✭Delboy5

    Thanks for the comments, ill look into the Leaf30 or 40, Zoe40 or an Ioniq28.

    The Ioniq is looks nicer than the other two....

  • Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭sh81722

    The Leaf30 seems to degrade more than the others (aside from the very first Nissan Leaf model years) so a fresh car than currently makes it might fall below the threshold soonish. I'm on a market for an EV in 10k price range as a local car atm. and there seem to a few 30 kWh LEAFs at just over 10k mark with marked degradation in their batteries.

    Another vote for the Ioniq 28 from here.

  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,082 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy

    OP if you were saving €3,500 a year in Diesel, factor that in to the purchase price if you have the ability to get a (larger loan)

    €3,500 over 6 years is €21,000 + €20k gives you a €41,000 budget... which would probably get you into this Tesla Model S 85D, which comes with free Tesla Supercharging for life. and will do 0-100km/h in about 4.4 seconds, and will be a fun machine!! It would do your daily commute 2 days in a row and still get you into work on the 3rd day before needing a charge!!