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Bend of the Boyne - Meath

  • 12-09-2022 05:04PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6


    I used to visit Boyne Valley in Meath when I was in primary school.

    Recently though, a video has appeared on YouTube which throws "Doubt" and "Nowt" on what We were told in primary school.

    The YouTube shows the presenter interviewing it alians with a pint of Guinness as the microphone. Newgrange is just a bunch of rubble back in 1962.

    Type "Newgrange Discoveries" into youtube, and pick the video with a guy holding a Guinness.

    newgrange-excavation.jpg




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Guiness drinking aliens built the pyramids.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 juniperflower41


    There's an interesting old caretaker woman about halfway through video, her skin resembles a lizard, in my opinion.

    She talks about Billy Goats on dem Hills.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,319 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The "reconstruction" of the front of Newgrange was a farce based on very dubious archaeology and a nod to tourism, but the sites themselves are well researched and dated.

    Even so Newgrange was more than a "bunch of rubble"

    Untitled Image

    The entrance was clear as was the decorated stone in front, even the upper lintel roofbox is visible.

    Knowth and Dowth and all the other smaller sites are the better preserved. And the site is part of a much larger cultural history that can be found across western Europe in England, France, Spain, Portugal.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 juniperflower41


    Hi Wibbs,

    What year was the archaeological digg, 1962?

    Here are some photos from the 1930s, which are quite different,

    Screenshot 2022-09-13 at 10.18.51.png Screenshot 2022-09-13 at 10.20.45.png




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 juniperflower41


    Here's another photo where the lads from the Big House are reconstructing the passageway


    Screenshot 2022-09-13 at 10.56.53.png




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Your first photo from the 1930s shows the stone from the roofbox (the one with the xxxx pattern on it) in pretty much the same condition as Wibbs' photo (which is from the late 19th century)

    image.png

    You may have both got them from this page: http://irisharchaeology.ie/2012/12/images-of-newgrange-through-the-ages/ (well, the're both on it anyway).

    There's another one on it that shows the entrance in 1910; an iron gate was installed, and the entrance had been very much cleaned up, although the roobox remained blocked up until the excavations in the 60s.

    image.png


    My dad's family were from Drogheda, and they would occasionally visit Newgrange and the surrounding areas when he was a kid in the 1940s. He used to tell the story of going inside the passageway way by candlelight. There was a point where it got very narrow or partially blocked by dislodged stones. He and his dad were inside one time, heading out, and another group of people were heading in. A fat woman got stuck in the narrow part, trapping them inside for a bit until they got her unstuck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 juniperflower41


    I think the photos you provided, prove the point, the roofbox mysteriously changes position down the years.

    Who owned the land around the Meow'nds when you dad visited in the 1940's ?

    If you studied basic physics, the passageway stones could not support themselves and the huge weight of earth on top.

    To me, it looks like an old chieftains Stonehouse, on a fairy ring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Got a flight to America years ago n the loud yank beside me wouldn't stop talking to me. She was yakking on about newgrange n I said I lived nearby. She was jealous n asked how often do I go. I responded I wouldn't go look at that crap - she didn't say another word for the flight - heaven!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa



    Are you the same poster behind the previous grassalwaysgeener, catastrophetimberg and other similar accounts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure




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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,319 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    If you studied basic physics, the passageway stones could not support themselves and the huge weight of earth on top.

    Eh. Yeah, they could and did and in plenty of sites that were largely left alone. Here's one in France(Gavriniz).

    Untitled Image

    At some point after it was abandoned wooden structures around the entrance burnt down and collapsed and was covered with earth until it looked like any small hill and was not rediscovered until the mid 19th century. And that has a lot of stone a well as earth. Stone is extremely strong in compression, narrow passageways with short span lintels with corbelling are also extremely strong. The cultures who built them were masterful craftsmen in stone and knew the material intimately.

    These megaliths were part of a large interconnected culture on the western seaboard of Europe for a few thousand years and there are numerous examples of them in Ireland as well as the continent. So unless there was some wild "conspiracy" to build these things, inclduing all the megalithic art found within the, who salted them all with accurately dated artefacts and lined them up to astronomical events(while allowing for progression of the heavens) and added historical references to some of them going back a thousand years across a multitude of sites costing a fortune in each case in the modern era and with no witnesses...

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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