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The sound of silence - why no chirping on Irish summer nights?

  • 20-08-2022 6:15am
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    It’s a staple of summer nights in much of the northern hemisphere to hear the loud chirping of crickets. In Ireland, on a summer night in the countryside you might hear the faraway cry of a vixen, but not much else. Do we lack chirping crickets in Ireland? Is our weather too cold for them or something like that?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    I hear them the odd time in the Burren or else they're grass hoppers. But I was awoken this morning to a few hundred starling's on my roof. Sounded like a pipe burst in my attic and water was flowing everywhere. The chirping was intense lol



  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    we don't have crickets in Ireland.

    There is no nighttime chirping from birds as they are asleep. In April and May we get the birdsong early in the morning , as early as 4.30am but thats it.... from mid-Summer onwards its quiet.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,890 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    we don't have crickets in Ireland.

    "There are ten species of Orthoptera native to Ireland, seven grasshoppers and three bush-crickets "

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Orthoptera_species_of_Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    There's lots of chirping in the undergrowth around my house at night. I have lots of rough ungrazed grassland, that might be the reason.

    It has eased off a lot in recent days as the evenings are much colder but at the height of summer it was constant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    And while I'm boasting:

    During the day I hear curlews and buzzards. In the evenings I hear woodcocks and ravens. At night I can hear a long-eared owl, stoats and foxes.

    In the spring I was having a war with a cuckoo that picked a tree outside my bedroom window and cucked and ood as loud as he could from about 5am. It's like a car alarm going off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    I hear them every year in a certain part of Glasnevin. Not sure why.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    No doubt nights are quieter since intensive farming practices spread across the country over the last 60 years or so along with the mass destruction of BNM bogs, other wetlands etc. in that time. The loss of birds like Corncrakes, Quails, various breeding waders etc. along with the massive reduction in Grasshoppers, Crickets and other insect species in general all feeds into this sad state of affairs:(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3


    Put simply it's down to intensive farming, clearing land for development would also have some knock on effects but not as much, when you see machinery in fields clearing land and ditches and cutting trees to make grazing land the price we pay for increased agriculture is the gradual erosion of wildlife and the noise and activities that go with it

    This is all within the last 50 years due to the mechanisation of farming, increased nitrates, pesticide and slurry use has killed off the natural wildflowers that were abundant and kept a balance, that balance is now off kilter with little being done to rectify it, put simply the reason you're not hearing anything is because of us

    But it's not too late yet, I keep 7 acres totally organic every year for hay, absolutely no fertiliser or slurry in the last 6 years only graze it well back before the winter and let it grow naturally until ready to harvest,where once there was a yearly fight with rushes is now a field of flowers that's a sight to behold, I couldn't believe the change in the last 3 to 4 years in the meadow, its alive with activity and life, if every landowner set aside just 5 percent of grassland for chemical free farming we might see a return of bees and wildlife, but knowing human inclination to do the opposite of what's good for us I don't hold out much hope



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Just curious but is 'birdsong' the term used when the noise in pleasant? All I get is the squawking of seagulls and it usually begins at 2am particularly in summer months. Is that their version of birdsong?



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I grew up surrounded by three very old unimproved meadows bounded with overgrown hawthorn hedges which also had ash, elm, and hazel in them, and even then the crickets didn’t chirp. The agriculture was far from intensive.

    Go to almost any American suburb in June or July, and the sound of the crickets is deafening. Surely such places are even worse for biodiversity than intensive farmland here.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,890 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    heard some crickets or grasshoppers while cycling along the runway at dublin airport today. the grass was not very long.



  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ha ha, I'm sure it is, each to their own! I never called grasshoppers Crickets and I replied a few days ago saying we don't have crickets in Ireland. If the OP meant grasshoppers then I stand corrected. However I never heard them at night time, on a sunny afternoon and evening yes, but not at night like you would in the US.

    I was hiking in the Mourne Mountains yesterday, a warm sunny day and the hills were alive with the buzzing of bees, grasshoppers and other insects and there were plenty of dragon flies and butterflies everywhere. It was bliss!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Out of doors, the night walker in summer will also hear the rustling of a hedgehog, snuffle-riffle along the hedge line among the dead grasses.

    But that cricketty chirrupping isn't a night time thing in Ireland, except for the singing crickets in the hearth, now very rare.

    No Cicadas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    My father said the crickets used come into the house, near the fireplace to sing. He maintained it was the DDT, that wonder powder of the time, killed them off.



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