Tiling in a new build questions.

Cork29

Purchased a new build. They will tile the house as a extra i have 90 meters to tile and it works out at 53 euro a square meter labour and materials.

I have a friend who tiles and will give me a good rate. He can tile when i get the keys.

question 1. Is it a bad job to put in the kitchen before the tiles?

question 2. They will install tiles till to just passed the island. Is it possible to get a good finish for the rest of the room if continue tiling 2 months later. Do the last row of tiles need to left high? Not sure what meant by this

Cork29

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mike_2009

My mate bought a new house with a fully fitted kitchen and had the tiler in last week to do the downstairs and backsplash. Did a great job so I don't think it's a problem for a good tiler. They're not going to put tiles under the kitchen units but only up to the kickboard anyway I would have thought?

Just buy all the tiles now as different batches can look slightly different and you can always finish later.

Cork29

The builders of the house are recommending tile before kitchen units. It will seal the floor, if any appliances leak etc. tiles will be under units

Lumen

Usual advice is to tile first.

https://saffroninteriors.co.uk/should-you-tile-under-kitchen-units/

On top of that, if you pay the builders then there will be no doubt as to the liability if there is a problem like voids under the tiles, so any finger pointing won't be your problem.

If, however, you decide to tile after units are fitted, make sure they go under the units enough to support the kickboards.

Dudda

53 for materials and labor isn't a bad rate (depending on the tiles). How much will you actually save from the mate rate?

If you can it's a better job to have the tiles in before the kitchen but not critical. Less visible grout lines around the bottom of the units. The untrained eye doesn't notice but it drives me mad. This is right where dirt and spills gather.

mulbot

Tile your floor before the kitchen goes in. 25 years in the business

Cork29

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119496650#Comment_119496650

Would save 20 euro a sq meter so close to 2000 overall saving

Cork29

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119496652#Comment_119496652

Would i be able to get a good finish the builders tile enough to get the island in and finish the rest of area a few months after? For the last row of tiles would you leave it slight raised up to continue?

also builder will only put in 80 by 80 max. Is 60 by 120 a lot nicer in your opinion?

Le shovelle

Either tile it all or none of it. If you stop in middle of the floor, you risk the edges of the tiles chipping and it's possible when you grout the second part, the colour may be a different shade.

100m2 is a large kitchen.

Would the builder not let your tiler do it before the kitchen install?

Cork29

100 meters is all downstairs hallways living room and downstairs bathrooms walls etc.

doing all downstairs the same tile.

i asked them could he come in and do the job but they would not allow it

Le shovelle

Builder is going to need those areas tiled before second fix joinery and painting can be completed. Unfortunately I think your going to have to bite the bullet and use the builders tiler

Cork29

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119498956#Comment_119498956

I think so at this stage, if he would install the 60 by 120 i would have been happy enough with it

PowerToWait

Builder’s rate is v good I think (depending on tile). Around here a tiler with good rep is getting a minimum of 30 quid a metre.

I don’t know how good your mate is but I think tiles poorly laid are one of the most obvious things to notice in a house. Worth spending extra to get it done well.

is he not charging you any labour?

There will be 20 bags of adhesive at 20 quid each needed, a load of grout and primer on top of cost of tiles which aren’t that cheap for anything decent.

Also make sure your screed is dry if you have UFH. Any cracks?

2smiggy

how long would a person turn on the under floor heating for before tiling. everyone seems to have different ideas. some telling me 3 weeks of it on and 1 week off before the tiling

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119541167#Comment_119541167

That would generally be standard practice alright. The reason for needing it on is to allow the floor to heat to above its standard working temperature and then you switch it off for a week to allow the floor to cool again. This allows for expansion and contraction in the floor and if any cracks are going to appear they should appear at this stage. They can then be sanded back level before tiling and you shouldn’t have any more problems in the future.

If you have a heat pump fitted there should be a floor drying mode on it. This normally starts heating the floor at around 16-18 degrees and increases by 1 degree every 2 days or so.