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Civil Service v HSE Salary Scales - PPC v Non PPC

  • 15-08-2022 7:52pm
    Registered Users Posts: 15

    I note in the Civil Service there are 2 X Salary Scales - PPC and Non PPC

    I seem to see that Non PPC is for EE's prior to 6th April 1995 and is connected with PRSI and/or Pension. These EE's pay a Class D PRSI so do not have the PRSI Benefitis of Class A and pay 6.5% towards pension (5% towards main pension and 1.5% towards Widows and Orphans Pension) However, I don't understand why the 2 Salary Scales

    The 2 X Salary Scales do not exist in the HSE

    Is there anyone who can explain if a person with a Defined Benefit Pension on a Class D Stamp who transferred from HSE to Civil Service recently should be on Non PPC Salary Scale (which is lower than PPC Salary Scale)


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,091 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble

    Is there anyone who can explain ...

    Your union would be the first port of call.

  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Shuffl_in

    Those on the PPC rate of pay have pension contributions deducted each pay period, the gross amount is slightly higher to account for this. That's as I understand it anyway.

    You're far better off if you're on the non PPC rate - much better pension etc..

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭gipi

    The higher, PPC, scale was introduced for staff paying the full rate of PRSI, as an attempt to equalise the net pay of pre-95 and post-95 staff.

    I was a HSE employee, and was transferred to the civil service over 10 years ago. I remained a "pre-95" employee, I didn't pay full PRSI. I went on the non-PPC scale.

    Note that civil servants don't pay the 5% superannuation unlike HSE staff. I'm aware of the additional pension contribution that was introduced during the last downturn.

  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Sinead_Hanley

    @gipi - Many thanks

    I want to be sure that I can transfer over the pension service and terms so that if I make retirement!! I will have the same benefits as if I had stayed with the HSE

    lump sum on retirement (1.5 times final salary for full service)

    pension on retirement (50% final salary for full service)

    deat-in-service gratuity

    spouse's and children's pension

    ill-health retirement benefits

    I am Class D and have the HSE/LGSS 1986 Terms. Currently I pay 5% towards Main Scheme and 1.5% towards Spouses' & Children's Scheme.

    I see you mention above that the 5% Superannuation contribution will not continue

    Do you know what superannuation contributions will be deducted?