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AO(H) to HEO in Civil Service

  • 03-08-2022 7:54am
    #1
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭


    Would anyone know what the case would be if someone transferred from an AO(H) grade to HEO?


    A recruiter told me that it would mean I'd start at first scale on HEO as I'm at the final point of AO(H) which is higher .

    This is a public service to Civil Service so I've no idea.



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  • #2
    impega1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭impega1


    I presume you are applying for an open HEO competition or a secondment

    If it is a secondment then you move over on your current t&c's however are ineligible for any internal competitions (also ineligible for inter-d comps as you will retain your Public Sector status)

    New appointments to civil service usually start at minimum point of pay scale unless they are an existing civil/public servant, however you will need to carefully review the booklet to ensure it includes this clarification.



  • #3
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭Daith


    Thanks. It's an open competition and does mention that it may be different for existing public / civil servants.


    I guess I won't know until their HR department confirms it.



  • #4
    Kirbi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Kirbi


    I think circular 08/2019 applies - https://circulars.gov.ie/pdf/circular/per/2019/08.pdf



  • #5
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭Daith


    Cheers, was looking at that. It doesn't mention anything about starting at the first point of the scale, so it looks like it might be the LS2 point which mightn't be the worst.


    Will see.



  • #6
    Kirbi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Kirbi


    It looked like that to me too, based on what you've said.

    One thing I will say, is that they will never go above LS2 for standard wage - they're literally not allowed to; so you'll still be looking at a bit of a drop unless the role comes with allowances.



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  • #7
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭Daith


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424454#Comment_119424454

    Cheers. I think the new role might offer better development opportunities so could be worth it. Will need to be sure though.

    Not sure what that recruiter for the other role was on about. Maybe the employer he was recruiting for really just wanted someone at the lower end of scale.



  • #8
    doc22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭doc22



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424521#Comment_119424521

    What's is an AO(H) in public sector? Like an AO in a local authority is not the same level as a AO in CS....



  • #9
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭Daith


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119430887#Comment_119430887

    It's not a local authority, but the role I'm doing would be similar to the CS role. Though it looks like it's set at HEO level across the CS so be useful for me to know even if this role doesn't work out.



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