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Tour de France Stage 10 - Morzine to Megève (148.1km)

  • 12-07-2022 10:47am
    #1
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    A relatively short mountain stage today with a long but not very difficult final summit. Has to be a day for the break as you can't see any real advantages to chasing it today. Hard to see any major changes to GC but then again sometimes these benign looking stages can throw up drama. In terms of the break I would expect to see Kamna having a go again but my pick for today is Paret-Peintre. PCS says he is a local so he will know this climb well and his team will be on stage hunting duty until the end of the Tour now with O'Connor gone. Maybe Latour for Total Energies. Another French team that has lost 2 riders. Is it Kirby or Hatch that has been going on about their long wait almost every day?

    Inner Ring is going for Kamna, Jungels (another who lives nearby) amongst others. Pinot might be along too if he fancies going for the KOM but like the other day this stage is probably not hard enough for him to take the win. The next two days might suit him better. Would love to see him win on Alpe D'Huez.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Betting:

    Kamna - 6/1

    Pogacar - 7/1

    WvA - 10/1

    Pinot, Kron - 18/1

    Teuns, Bettiol, Fuglsang - 20/1

    Paret-Peintre - 75/1 :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Yeah this seems nailed on for one to just let the break go with it, but you never know with UAE considering how hard they paced to close the break with Uran in it even though he was like 4 minutes behind in the classification.

    Paret Peintre is only 3:30 down in GC, so they might go with the same logic if they refuse the idea of handing the jersey over and still pace hard towards the end if he gets into the break



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Ah feck didn't realise he was only 3:30 down. Still only €2 thrown away. Jungels might go again so.



  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wow George Bennett out with covid now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Christ.

    Majka also Covid positive but they’ve said he “has a low enough viral load to keep racing”



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Well that doesn't make sense, I'd sooner they just said they don't care enough about him as a person. Riding a tour with any infection is asking for trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    How can you have 2 guys with covid, but one is a DNS and the other allowed to continue??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Jungels was the same at the start of the tour, apparently it’s up to the race doctor, team doctor and UCI doctor to ‘determine’ the riders viral load levels and say whether he can race or not.

    Which in itself makes no sense especially since the UCI/ASO are only mandated testing weekly (most teams are daily testing themselves but it’s not regulated, because your viral load increases and decreases over time



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Yeah looks bad. In terms of the UAE team much as I don't like one single rider to dominate the Tour if Pog went out because of covid it would spoil things.



  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've had covid myself in recent weeks minor symptoms for a day otherwise positive but grand for a week or so. Now I still feel like im 80 doing a short spin of 15km or so. That said I felt a bit more like myself this morning when I was out but I can imagine it would be hell having to race right after having it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    A Pogacar positive test would be a disaster. Majka also needing to drop out though...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    The first climb today, Cote de Chevenoz, must be one of the easiest categorised climbs in the Tour in modern history... the official profile says 2.2 km at 2.9% and the profile in the OP says 2.2 km at 3.4%. I'm not saying that your average Fred could stick with the pros or anything, but I can't believe the organisers categorised it at all, even as a Cat. 4.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Can’t understand why Pog is driving so hard to close gaps, he literally only has two domestiques up beside him now with 3 out the back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭griffin100


    I think on the PCR tests it has to do with cycle times. The higher the number of PCR cycles required to detect the virus the lower the viral load. A colleague who’s a public health / infectious disease specialist tells me that infections from some time ago can be detected if you do enough PCR cycles even though you’re technically over the infection (the test only looks for viral RNA and the smaller the amount in the body the more cycles required). The UCI seem to be happy to keep high cycle time riders in the race (no pun intended).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Pog not sitting behind Majka, Thomas is in there instead. Take no chances!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭devonp


    i see GT is sporting some NEW shades...today the first time ??

    (didn't Oakley make him some new old racing jackets ?)



  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Protesters ffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Lol, someone getting fcuked down the verge in the background to Wiggins there



  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wiggo loving it, he's right though the French don't take kindly to that kind of stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    Some years ago, Thomas crashed and lost his Racing Jackets glasses. He was a bit upset about it, because they were his last pair. Oakley had stopped making them. Oakley then made up a few new pairs for him.

    I am relying on memory for this, and can't find link.



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  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Who was Kelly talking about jumping of the bike and swinging punches at protestors during Paris Nice back in the day I missed that bit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Do NOT f**k with The Badger!!



  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I need not have asked it could only have been him 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Don't know how I feel about Pogacar staying away from Majka all day - surely if the team leader is worried about staying close to him then he shouldn't be in thee race at all?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    I recently read Slaying The Badger by the late Richard Moore about Hinault & LeMond in the 1986 Tour. I would highly recommend it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭GandhiwasfromBallyfermot


    Another day of praying Simmons doesn't get the win.



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  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd love to see Lenny take yellow here.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Bahrain to take the win and get raided in the morning?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Van Baarle gone way too early



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Delighted Court won that (I think...), anyone but Bahrain I would've been happy with tbf



  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah popular win there I think. Everyone was in a heap on the ground after the finish.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Even if he is not in yellow Kamna won't be able to go on the break now. I do wonder why he doesn't have a crack at GC anyway. Seems perfectly capable. Decent TT too.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    A very weird stage. Feels like a wasted opportunity for a mountain stage. This was a stage up a mountain that wasn’t a mountain stage.


    Delighted for Cort. LL Sanchez sprint was horrific.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    He’ll lose 4-10 minutes tomorrow and Thursday

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    This is correct but if its that low it might also be just the beginning of the infection. Not to get to deep into a Covid discussion but if this is the game they want to play then they should be doing multiple daily antigen tests where you are detecting proteins that are there during the spreading stage of an infection. Admittedly it would be easier to "dodge" an antigen test if its self administered. How long its detectable via PCR is debatable and most labs will have a cycle cut off, so anything after that is simply a "not detected". We've done some cool things in our lab with testing sensitivity on both test types and several brands of antigen tests.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Sprint was class at the end, absolutely delighted for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Agreed. They are only PCR testing as a rule after a positive RADT result a o the sensitivity of the antigen test is key.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    Yummmm. What’s Orla wearing tonight. A slip of a yoke as my dad would have said



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,879 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Thought Fred Wright had super legs today better than Sanchez but he was scarified wrongly for me.

    It was a real interesting last climb with loads of riders well up to winning in different scenarios.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Did Ewan get eliminated? i see he was 31mins down, with a lot of his team but cant find confirmation. last estimation I heard put elimination at 18 or so minutes



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso




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