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Thoughts on online mart purchasing

  • 11-07-2022 12:20pm
    Registered Users Posts: 3 farm123

    Title say's it all. What are peoples thoughts on buying cattle from the mart online using apps like Marteye? With the pandemic becoming a thing of the past (hopefully!), will people leave these apps behind and go back to the mart in person?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,653 ✭✭✭ tanko

    Why would buyers want to waste their time hanging around the mart when they can look at the cattle before the sale, pick out which lots they’re interested in and keep an eye on the sale on their phone as they go about their days work. I suppose it’s different for dealers buying bigger numbers of cattle.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3 farm123

    I completely agree with you. I'm just curious as my father-in-law sells all his weanlings at the mart so for him as a seller Marteye and other online trading marketplaces aren't as convenient. He's also an older farmer in his late 60's, so theres the age barrier for him potentially. Just interested to hear other peoples thoughts.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭ patsy_mccabe

    Dealers hate the facilities to buy sell at the mart on-line. All the sellers I've talked to think they are a great job. Nothing like a bit of competition.

    Buyers seem to like it too, as they can bid anonymously. Here to stay, in my book.

    " Always keep your eye on the ball, even when its in the refs pocket"

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭ Cavanjack

    I prefer to buy at the ring. You can’t see them right when they are squashed into a pen with other cattle.

    Saying that I’ve probably bought 50% of our cattle this last two years online without seeing them first. It’s here to stay alright

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,959 ✭✭✭ 893bet

    nothing stopping him going to the mart and standing in the seller box. Personally I prefer my time doing other stuff and watch to online, calculate my price per kilo, assess it against other cattle on the day etc before deciding if she is sold.

    The only thing missing is the “on the market” which often might get you a few Bob more but maybe you are getting it anyway.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭ bogman_bass

    far better selling from home IMO. In the box you can only accept the “on the market price”

    at home you accept or reject the selling price

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭ MfMan

    It's here to stay but can be a double-edged sword. I'd prefer to see stock properly in advance, or at least give them a good scrutiny when they enter the ring, before buying. It's easier to buy purely round the ring as you may ...ahem.. be able to stop rivals going against you when bidding. However, if trying to buy against a competitor or someone you don't like, you can nip up the back and work away online with them usually none the wiser.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭

    I bought most of my cattle on line this year sitting at the back of the mart. Nobody knew my's brilliant. I have heard the tanglers hate it.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭ Sheep breeder

    Its here to stay, left cattle in the mart on Saturday and went home the daughter watched and wrote down weighs and price and worked out per kilo. Mart office rang twenty minutes later to confirm sale, a lot depends on the mart who is running it, be it privately owned or a manger. One problem we see with the pedigree sheep side is fellas selling has somebody outside the door bidding for their stock to the selling price then on the market straight away. A lot of buyers are copping on to this now and a lot will ruin the job.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭ _Brian

    Dont go to the mart much but have seen lads sitting ringside bidding online.

    Stops dealers bullying lads I was told.

    we bought a few against a dealer one day in Ballybay, he walked over and asked if we planned to buy many, “as many as we want” I said and turned away.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭ amacca

    I remember going down to Kilmallock and buying 40 calves years ago (unusual circumstances) .........Jesus christ they were on me like flies on a shite.....noncommittal answers all the way...

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭ _Brian

    Chap who brings our cattle to the mart would buy stock and sell stock for lads.

    he might be at the heifer ring bidding on heifers and online buying bulls up in the bull ring at the same time.

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,861 ✭✭✭✭ Bass Reeves

    Out of 65 cattle I bough last year over 50 I bought online. I seldom go to the mart now. It's mostly Friesians I but( about 80%). I find I can judge the animals online. As well you get to know the .arts and type of animals.

    If you go to a mart dealers mess you around. Dealers now seem to be following cattle a bit further if it's an online bidder.

    When I have a lot or two bought I start hitching up the box and head off. To buy the amount I buy would have entailed 10+ days in the mart before. Every day at the mart is 4-6 hours gone and 10-25 in diesel ya I pick up a few ropey ones, but price is cheaper. I no longer have to buy off farm.

    Slava Ukrainii

  • Registered Users Posts: 3 farm123

    Very interesting comments here!. I agree that you can end up getting a few ropey ones online, and i've seen that before! I wonder is there any 'laws/rules' on bidding online while physically being at the mart?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭ J.O. Farmer

    What's the difference between letting the auctioneer know you're bidding by nodding or by tapping bid on your phone apart from the competition around the ring won't know your bidding when you do it online.

    You sound like one of the unhappy dealers. Everyone else seems to like the system.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,965 ✭✭✭ Dunedin

    As a matter of interest, why do you not like buying off farm.

    when I was buying cattle over the years, I always preferred buying off farm -

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,861 ✭✭✭✭ Bass Reeves

    You could end up going to 3-4 farms to buy a few stock. Now that lads are weighing calves they weight the yearling as well. There is a huge difference between fresh and mart weight. And that is aside from if the scales has been calibrated

    Finally most farmers check the mart prices and expect to get the top mart price. This can further be a problem in that they may have cattle are 400kg fresh weight but only 360 mart weight and there can be different prices for them as well

    Slava Ukrainii

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,483 ✭✭✭✭ Base price

    Online livestock selling is definitely here to stay as it suits so many people be them buyers or sellers.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,483 ✭✭✭✭ Base price

    I just did a quick tot of the numbers that we bought online last year and this year - last year 167 and so far this year 61. They are a mix of calves, weanlings/runners, yearling heifers, suckler cows/incalf heifers and cull cows.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,253 ✭✭✭ funkey_monkey

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  • Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭ leoch

    Never heard tanglers either ...dealers is all I ever heard them called....or vermin no only joking

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭ patsy_mccabe

    Tanglers, jobbers & dealers - in desending order. 😀

    " Always keep your eye on the ball, even when its in the refs pocket"

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭ SuperTortoise

    I've never bought an animal in the mart but 90% of cattle I sell are sold at the mart and I think its a great job.

    A bit of competition for the tanglers is a good thing and long may it last.