Murder in the Alps - ch4

fryup · 27-06-2022 5:40pm #1

Anyone watching this? part 2 is on tonight channel 4 at 9.00pm, very intriguing

https://inews.co.uk/news/crime/al-hilli-family-who-killed-true-crime-story-channel-4-documentary-series-murder-in-the-alps-1704356

I reckon it had something to with his work background in communication satellites, industrial espionage.

Man Vs ManUre · 27-06-2022 5:45pm

I watched it. It’s hard to believe they have never solved it, or got anywhere near solving it. Seems cyclist was in wrong place at wrong time, and target was the father??

fryup · 27-06-2022 10:23pm

Saad's wife's ex husband dies on the very day of the shooting??????

what a coincidence that is...or is it a coincidence? its just bizarre all round

Atlantic Dawn · 28-06-2022 1:13am

Yes remember this case when it happened, the brother was chief suspect, thought it was never solved, won't go Googling it, will watch on All4.

frosty123 · 28-06-2022 4:18pm

To steal a quote from JFK...

"It's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma"

cnoc · 28-06-2022 4:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119262756#Comment_119262756

Churchill

frosty123 · 28-06-2022 4:24pm

And from JFK the movie (joe peci's character said it)

Wezz · 28-06-2022 4:30pm

Only watched the first episode, will catch up on the rest tonight. Interesting case. I wonder why they are so such the British family were the targets. I’m sure that will be answered. It just stuck me as odd last night the gunman was waiting in the gully prior to the family arriving, how did he know they would be there or that they would stop?

fryup · 28-06-2022 5:15pm

it must have been a rendezvous of some sort and the hitman had prior knowledge

fryup · 29-06-2022 11:22am

well that's one big 'head scratcher' isn't it

don't know what to conclude from it....was Saad al Hilli the target? was the cyclist Sylvain Mollier the target? was anyone the target? was it just simply a case of a lone psycho gunman with a bloodlust who just targeted the first people he came across?

but it seems the French police made a hames of it, not releasing that photofit for a year what's that about? not finding the passports in the jacket pocket was galling, hellbent on nailing it on the brother Zaid was a mistake.

Personally I think it was the ex-policeman with the gun collection who matched the photofit - they released him for lack of evidence but all suspicions points towards him

The_Dave · 29-06-2022 1:56pm

Always fascinated by this case. Somehow never knew that the wife's ex-husband died on the same day. It would seem as if it was either a rendez-vous or the victims were just in the wrong place and not targeted. I seem to recall at the time that the press alluded to the British cyclist as possibly being Mi5 or Mi6 and possibly tracking Saad

fryup · 29-06-2022 10:00pm

^^^^^^^^^^^

or maybe...the British cyclist was the intended target and the French cyclist was killed in a case of mistaken identity??

afterall the french cyclist overtook the british cyclist on that road, so maybe the gunman waiting thought it was the british guy??

it really is a rabbit hole of a case, there's no end to the different synopsis's

Atlantic Dawn · 29-06-2022 10:43pm

Enjoyed it for all the possible suspects it was able to determine.

I'd be thinking it was the French cyclist that was the target but then you have to ask yourself why did the killer not wait until Saad and the family were not in the same area, would have been plenty of opportunities on that route? The Luger pistol would tend to point towards an amateur killer and not a professional hitman which might fit better with the cyclist being the target.

Then if the cyclist was the target why did Saad have the extensive hard drives with him (which apparently his work had zero military/inteligence value) for the 'holiday' when he could have left them at home in the secure safe it was said he had, also it was strange he was going to collect the €1 million from the Swiss bank account which was his fathers at this same time.

French police made a complete balls of the case, missing the daughter at the start and then not finding the passports in Saad's pockets for nearly 2 years. The description of the motorcyclist suspect should have been released immediately too.

30-06-2022 1:16pm

could be two unrelated facts. If Saad was up to something dodgy it does not necessarily follow he was killed because of that, he could just have happened to be where the french cyclist was killed. Just as he could if he was not up to anything dodgy

the french cyclist gf family were 100% right not to talk to the media. the media try to say anyone who does not talk to them is guilty.The english cop did the same as the french, focusing on the french cyclist as they focused on Saad

Very good documentary. I never knew about Saad's wife having been married before in the USA. I read the book but i don't recall that being in it