Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

CGT bill on property sale

  • 15-06-2022 4:39pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭


    Can anyone help me roughly calculate my capital gains tax bill on the sale of my property?

    I will be engaging an accountant to look over this for me and help with my allowable deductions but I'm keen to know the ball park figure.

    Bought August 2014 - €210,000

    Sold June 2022 - €300,000

    Primary residence Aug 2014 - Jan 2020 (5 years 5 months or 65 months)

    Rented Jan 2020 - June 2022 (2 years 5 months or 29months)

    Allowable deductions (solicitors fees purchasing and selling, Estate agent fees etc) roughly calculated for simplicity sake - €10,000

    Profit on sale €90,000 - €10,00 allowable deductions = €80,000 that should be taxable for cgt.

    CGT is 33%


    So the bit I'm struggling to get my head around is working out how much is taxable based on the years that it wasn't my primary residence.

    Am I correct in saying that I only pay cgt proportionally for the period it was rented out?

    So hear comes the back of the cigarette box calculations.

    €80,000 ÷ 94 months (total ownership) x 29 months (period not primary residence) = €24,680

    33% of 24,680 = €8144


    Is my CGT bill likely €8144 or have a calculated this way off?



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,628 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Your re close but if you’ve ever lived in it as a PPR the. The last 12 months are always treated as if they were PPR compliant even if rented out. On that basis the gain of 80k is time apportioned as to 17/94 meaning approx €14,500 is taxed at 33% subject to the annual exempt amount of €1,270 per owner. Meaning 14,500-1,270 = 13,230 @ 33% = 4366 roughly. You’re lucky you have a gain. I’m selling a house I bought in 2008 and it’s still standing a loss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    Nice one.

    And to make the calculation of ppr as percise as possible is calculating it by the month the best way to do that? The only other way would be rounding up and down to years which would be way off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭The Buster




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    I've a further question on this.

    As stated in opening post I owned the property from August 2014 - June 2022


    To quote the revenues section on CGT relief

    "

    Any gains made on a property acquired between 7 December 2011 and 31 December 2014 are exempt from CGT. You will get full exemption providing that you:

    • owned the land or building for at least four and up to seven continuous years
    • and
    • sold the property on or after 1 January 2018.

    "

    So the 7 years relief would bring me up to August 2021. As indicated by previous poster the final year of ownership is always classified as ppr for cgt purposes.

    So would this mean I have no cgt liability for disposing of this property? Or would I still have some liability pro rata for the last 10 months of ownership?

    Of note it was rented out for the last 2.5 years and all income tax has been paid to date.


    I will obviously be seeking some formal advice on this too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭DFB-D


    You own the property more than 7 years so partial relief applies. This relief cannot be used in conjunction with PPR relief.

    Get someone to calculate both options for you including PPR, full PPR releif may be available under certain circumstances (working abroad etc).



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    So you think I'll most likely have to pay cgt proportion on the last 10 months of ownership?



Advertisement