Virtue/Vice Signalling

Liberty_Bear

Rejoined Twitter recently to talk normal shite about movies, music , holidays etc. Sincerely though it has become a hot bed of virtue singalling "amnt I great as I am a vegan and donate to the cat shelter", I do get sick a little every time (not a fan of Vegans, I couldnt eat a whole one). In tandem with this though is the same names on all the trans threads repeating as nauseum how trans people are not the gender they identify etc etc. Both these positions are very similar in nature - one proclaiming the moral high ground over the other. Seeing middle aged men having coniptions over some supposed matter that is an affront to them or some Gen Z'er trying to be holier than thou. On the surface they appear the opposite however its just the exact same position - people roaring to claim one is more righteous than the other ...🙄

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Everlong1

We've gone from one extreme to another as far as sexual rights are concerned. No one wants to return to the dark ages when gay people were persecuted for their sexuality but the way things are going now it's only a matter of time before someone demands the right to marry their cat.

zanador

Why does marrying an animal always get brought up in arguments about what consenting adults do with their orifices?

I don't care what people identify as, no skin off my nose and it makes the world much more interesting and colourful.

kirk.

That's a DUP line about people having sex with animals next

I seen Lenny Henry complaining about the Glastonbury audience being too white

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119203971#Comment_119203971

Applies in every facet of life. There is next to no balance, compromise or common sense anymore.

893bet

People have always been this stupid. Social media is just a means of making it more public.

It’s one of the reasons I don’t use twitter (I found it makes me dislike people I don’t know), or Facebook/Instagram etc (makes me dislike people I do know).

Jequ0n

Most people don’t care what someone identifies as. Many are irritated by the way trends such as gender debates, trans rights etc are used as tools for self stylisation.

At some stage these topics will not gain enough attention any more and people will move on to new material.

Part of me is happy to see how few people out there have a genuine personality and need to compensate it by showing allegiance to a cause.

Badly Drunk Boy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119204784#Comment_119204784

The only difference is that our decadence will finally allow the machines and technology to take over. Finally!

(Having said that, I could do with a bit of decadence in my life...)

Liberty_Bear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119204757#Comment_119204757

Couldnt agree more - its both sides of the coins shrieking the loudest

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119204748#Comment_119204748

There are DUP MP's who genuinely believe that the world is 6,000 years old when science proves otherwise. Not a place to seek inspiration IMO.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119204757#Comment_119204757

Selection bias due to spending too much time online. Social media is a cesspit. Limit your time on it and you'll be much better off.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119204748#Comment_119204748

And yet when Trudeau tries to add some balance, people criticise him for it

freemickey

Good evening, gentlemen,

I have no sense of purpose, no direction, little esteem, overwhelming feelings of insignificance, no guidance, no community and no help. Life is difficult.

But then I saw social media. I saw other people just like me, and they had created a purpose out of thin air. They had a righteousness. They were fighting a battle, a worthy cause. All done from the home with the easiest means available.

Therefore I signed up to rage about the inequality of furries too. Now I have purpose. I feel real emotions again, I get angry, I get to slap other furry activists on the back when my face lifts from the phone once or twice a week. Im part of a community again. We made a fake one in place of a real one.

Yours Sincerely,

Another Misguided Neglected Nobody.

The above is the problem. It is a mental health crisis enacted at societal scale, so large in magnitude that it's difficult to identify. But that's the answer to the growing waves of lunatics, right there.

growleaves

'There are DUP MP's who genuinely believe that the world is 6,000 years old when science proves otherwise.'

There is no proof of how old the world is and nobody knows for certain.

What there are is technically plausible models of how old the world probably is.

That's why in recent years a new study revised the age of the earth from 4.5 billion years down to 1-1.3 billion years. Scientists disagree and revise their estimates on an ongoing basis.

Liberty_Bear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119207674#Comment_119207674

The compulsion to call out virtue signalling is vice signalling..its gets ridiculous

Liberty_Bear

Well it is really - one is the polar opposite of the other, leaving out the drama that goes with it, all of the virtue/vice signalling is a vaccum of people roaring.

Burt Renaults

The whole trans debate does my head in. On the one side, you've got a load of oh-so-liberal people desperately seeking a new group to very vocally and visibly champion, because they're at something of a loose end since the passing of the 34th and 36th Amendments. And on the other side, you've got... cunts, essentially, desperately seeking a new group to hate.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119211689#Comment_119211689

This is very much a social media phenomenon. I'd say most people will never even see a trans person. Much less likely if they don't live in a large city.

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119204784#Comment_119204784

Many civilisations came to end for reasons other than decadence. For instance those in the Americas and Australia which succumbed to European domination.

FunLover18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119207690#Comment_119207690

There is proof that it is a lot older than 6000 years.

marieholmfan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119207674#Comment_119207674

That's one way to get women into STEM.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119211968#Comment_119211968

That doesn't depend solely on radiometric methods? Because any estimate that does depend solely on radiometric methods can be revised when the model is judged, by other scientists, to be wrong.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119207690#Comment_119207690

Pathetic.

The world is clearly older than 6,000 years.

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212034#Comment_119212034

It's closer to the billion mark than the 6000 mark, lets put it that way.

growleaves

There's no reason to lose the head and I didn't say the world was 6,000 years old.

The point is: how do you know what you think you know?

dxhound2005

Wikipedia does not share the view that every civilisation (every was the claim I responded to) fell because of a decline into decadence. The causes are more complex, and sometimes it is a long drawn out process. I see the Maya there described as a civilisation, so there certainly were civilisations in the Americas, such as the Aztecs and the Incas.

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ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212333#Comment_119212333

No, you just spouted a load of disingenuous guff. There was no point.