person riding a motorbike without insurance or licence

spongbob

Just looking for some advice , what would you do if you were in my shoes

Somebody I know, bought a motorbike, a 400cc

He has just passed a theory test last month

I've spotted him taken the bike out without insurance and without sitting any IBT seasons, he told me in conversation he has no insurance but he's only going for short rides

He is also bragging about his bike rides on his facebook page with over 20 other people congratulating him and saying "well done " and other people saying "seen you there yesterday your doing a great job"

I know he is breaking the law, In fact I am appalled because iv seen him taken a child on the back of the bike and him having no experience of driving a bike before buying this bike very recently. He is putting other road users lives at risk as well as his own and his child! 😡😡

Pawwed Rig

You have 2 choices. Do nothing or tip off the Gardai

spongbob

I feel if i do nothing and he causes an accident, I would be very annoyed with myself, this person is in his 40's He should know better

elperello

I understand your concern, what he is doing is very dangerous for himself, the innocent child and other road users.

However you should be aware that if you are the only one he has confided in about his law breaking the finger may be pointed at you if he is caught as a result of a tip off.

Ubbquittious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058246731/person-riding-a-motorbike-with-insurance-or-licence

you should have nothing to worry about because you live in a pineapple under the sea

spongbob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092135#Comment_119092135

I am a big Boy I can defend myself and he can point the fingers anyway he likes, Putting other lives at risk is not something I will take lighly

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092235#Comment_119092235

Your decision.

endacl

So why are you asking on here, instead of doing something about it?

spongbob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092282#Comment_119092282

good question

Murt10

Been there, done that, albeit 40 yrs ago on a 125cc bike. 🤣🤣🤣

I'm surprised your man hasn't got more sense at 40 years of age.

Akrasia

On a motorcycle he is much much more likely to kill himself than an innocent 3rd party

If you ever see him asking someone to get on the back of his bike with him, maybe say it then, otherwise what are you trying to achieve?

Whatwicklow

Insurance or a licence will not make him any better or safer of a rider.

Is it the free ride rustling your feathers?

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092693#Comment_119092693

You have to do theory tests and lessons to get a licence. The reason for this is that it makes you a better and safer driver.

Whatwicklow

training and experience = better and safer. Agreed.

brokenangel

The guy sounds like a plonker, ring the Gardai

Dial Hard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092135#Comment_119092135

He's posting about it on Facebook. It's literally in the OP.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092834#Comment_119092834

What he said about Facebook in the OP is -

"He is also bragging about his bike rides on his facebook page with over 20 other people congratulating him and saying "well done " and other people saying "seen you there yesterday your doing a great job""

That doesn't make it clear that the friends on Facebook know all about his licence and insurance status.

BronsonTB

Might be better in the motorbike forum as that guy is the result of their Ins premiumns going up...

https://www.boards.ie/categories/motorbikes

Don't think the general guards will actually do anything about it, loads don't have Insurance & they only catch a tiny fraction (Unless it's the Roads Policing unit, they will)

LIGHTNING

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092693#Comment_119092693

Ah the old classic Irish thing of "ah sure what harm is he doing". Which is fine until he drives into your own car or a person and then its all "This is not on"

newmember2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119106209#Comment_119106209

In the situations you describe it becomes everyone's concern when I claim off the bureau that's funded by all our insurance policies 😊

LIGHTNING

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119108890#Comment_119108890

Ah yes that's much better. It's a good thing that insurance is so cheap in this country 🙄

CiniO

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092235#Comment_119092235

But is he putting other lives at risk?

Is he driving dangerously?

Yes - he might have no licence, he might have no insurance, and he might have not gone through EDT lessons, same as majority of bikers in this country (obligatory lessons were only introduced around 2010 afair). But all above, doesn't necesserily mean that he is puting other lives at risk.

Calahonda52

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119112588#Comment_119112588

Being on a bike, or in a car, is putting lives at risk, regardless of training licence, insurance, tax, NCT, Covid status, 'cised or not.

Its a matter of degree of risk

Henry Ford III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119112588#Comment_119112588

Nobody crashes and causes damage or injury deliberately.

Good intentions are no excuse for not having insurance for a motor vehicle.

CiniO

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119113422#Comment_119113422

Sure, but not having insurance for motor vehicle has absolutely nothing to do with putting other lives at risk.

Eggs For Dinner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119115210#Comment_119115210

A person driving without insurance is an indicator that they have little regard or respect for others. It follows that this trait would be reflected in how they use our roads.

Henry Ford III

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119115210#Comment_119115210

You need to think that through I'd suggest.

Driving any motor vehicle involves a degree of risk, both for the driver and 3rd parties.

Doing so deliberately without mandatory insurance indicates a complete lack of responsibility for the drivers actions and their potential consequences.

That attitude of non compliance and lack of awareness has plenty to do with putting others at greater risk of injury or worse.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119112588#Comment_119112588

Your case for the defence is a bit threadbare.

He is taking to the road and carrying an underage passenger on a machine which it has not been decided that he is competent to drive.

The RSA have tightened up the rules for a reason.

D3V!L

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119118556#Comment_119118556

Did someone hit a nerve?