Don't Worry Darling

JP Liz V1

Olivia Wilde directs and stars

https://youtu.be/YatUA-DY3ZY

gmisk

Looks really interesting.

Florence Pugh is always so watchable.

bnt

New trailer out today: yikes.

https://youtu.be/bW9aRVXIwaY

Slydice

It doesn't seem to be scifi but it feels very stepford wives.

jj880

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/florence-pugh-shia-labeouf-dont-worry-darling-b2152443.html

Not sure what to make of this kind of promo for a movie. At the time it was scheduling but now it's because the movie set wasn't safe due to LaBeouf.

TheIrishGrover

Jesus. TBH, he does not seem to be a very likeable person. Maybe those Transformers movies put me off 'cos all I can think about him now is him constantly going "nonononono" and mumbling off rapid dialogue while avoiding eye-contact. And then this whole narcissistic "Method". This whole "I'm an artist" method-acting shtick is getting old. There is a time and a place. A type of character (Usually based on real person) that can benefit from research and immersion. But come on. Jared Leto's crap for.... For the JOKER cameo?

Florence Push is ALWAYS watchable. From that Fighting With My Family to saving the Black Widow movie (Full-on THEFT of that movie from Scarlet Johanson). I must admit, I don't think I've seen much of her in drama but I have no doubt about her ability.

speedboatchase

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521260#Comment_119521260

I'm glad the set was safe for Olivia Wilde to cheat on her husband with Harry Styles instead. Much more professional.

jj880

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524497#Comment_119524497

Yeah whatever the reasons for replacing LaBeouf with Styles (who just happened to be finished up with his tour at that time) its just comes off a bit low to be sticking the boot into someone now to promo the movie when a different reason was given at the time. I notice she's having a go at the ex fiance (Jason Sudeikis) now too calling him evil and saying "there's a reason I left that relationship". It just seems a bit low class to be coming out with all this just before her movie launch. I don't think you would hear other top directors airing their dirty laundry in interviews in the run up to a release.

jj880

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524036#Comment_119524036

Yeah Florence Pugh is A list talent. Great actress. This movie gives me midsommar vibes. She was excellent in that.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524036#Comment_119524036

Method Acting has got a little bit of a bad rep of late thanks to the likes of Leto or LeBeouf taking it to extremes. But worth remembering that Pacino, DeNiro and Day-Lewis are graduates of the Method school of acting, to name three. However, by all accounts they (apparently) are normal, well-adjusted people and supposedly professional and courteous on set (despite how Day-Lewis wanted to be referred to as Mr. President during the Lincoln shoot). I doubt the older actors would still be working if they weren't respectful of others.

For Jared Leto and Shia LeBeouf? I have a feeling it's all just a front and convenience to excuse the simple reality they are both, basically, total ássholes. If they were persuaded to dial back the "tortured artiste" routine and try a more naturalistic performance, they'd probably do quite well. But harder then to get away with being a díckhead to others.

As to the film? The trailer makes it look like it could be an absolutely riveting, tense thriller. Not often you see Chris Pine play an openly malevolent character, so that could be interesting.

speedboatchase

Shocked to discover that Olivia Wilde was lying.

https://twitter.com/SonnyBunch/status/1563172475869233152

2smiggy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119525796#Comment_119525796

Shocked !! I tended to believe Ted Lasso anyway !!

santana75

I've seen a good few interviews with Shia lately and he doesnt mention what happened on this movie at all, I'd love to hear his version of events. I dont know what it is though but Olivia wilde's use of the word "Safe" sets off alarm bells for me, I suspect we're not hearing the full truth. LeBouf is promoting the Padre Pio biopic he starred in at the moment and he comes across as brutally honest and sincere.

Well she cheated on her husband with one of the cast members she hired to star in her movie so it wasn't really a professional set.

So if it's not a professional set I would say it's not a "Safe" set

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119524497#Comment_119524497

Apparently Harry was paid more than lead star Florence too

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1565448661865299977

Wilde wanted more explicit trailer

silverharp

Olivia Wilde sounds like a bit of melt

jj880

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119570721#Comment_119570721

This has been trending last few days:

Olivia Wilde = Amber Heard 2.0

JP Liz V1

Olivia should worry darling 😄

Wilde saying she based the villain of the movie on Jordan Peterson.

That is another good reason not to watch this.

santana75

My goodness the drama around the making of this film seems to be eclipsing the film itself(which by all accounts is very mediocre). What with the attempt to throw Shia LeBeuof under the bus and portray him as the bad guy and now it seems as though the real villain of the piece was Olivia wilde herself. And now "Spit gate".........I've watched the clips and it does look like Harry Styles gobbed on Chris pine, even though both have had representatives stringently deny any such thing took place.

jj880

Harry actin the clown to generate some buzz. No doubt under orders from his missus Olivia Heard. Every time I see Chris Pine with Styles he looks ready to strangle him 😂. Pine is, in my opinion, a very good actor (Hell Or High Water is one of my favourite films) and I think he resents havin to babysit Styles who has no business being in a movie with a cast of proper actors.

Harry is a draw for middle aged women and they will flock to the cinemas to see this.

It is the smae at all his concerts by all accounts there is more middle aged women at them than teen girls.

jj880

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119592684#Comment_119592684

Sure I get that but would expect a celeb cameo. The fact that he's the leading man (and if reports are to be believed got paid a lot more than Pugh) is ridiculous in my opinion. Actors working years perfecting their art and building up a reputation. In bounces Styles coz he's slippin the mickey to the director. Maybe he'll surprise us all. Doubt it though.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119592684#Comment_119592684

Middle-aged women, teen girls ... and you, apparently? 🤨😜

silverharp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119592684#Comment_119592684

my only anecdote living near Lansdowne road is guessing who is on, based on the crowd going or vice versa, But the crowd for him was teeny bobby , West Life on the other hand.....

johnny_ultimate

I was looking forward to seeing what Wilde did after Booksmart, but between the feeding frenzy BTS stuff and the critical shrug it has received any enthusiasm has all but evaporated. That said, Pugh is one of the rare actresses working today who can make even otherwise weak fare like Black Widow worth watching, so will still give it a look.

santana75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119592205#Comment_119592205

Agreed about Chris Pine. I think Hell or highwater is a stone cold classic, himself and Ben Foster are incredible in that movie. He was also very good in the outlaw king and by all accounts a very likeable fella when the cameras arent rolling, loved by cast and crew, so if there was a beef I'd be inclined to look in Harry's direction.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119585009#Comment_119585009

She seems to be a bit unhinged to say the least

Olivia Wilde has revealed that Chris Pine’s “terrifying” character in her newest movie, Don’t Worry Darling, is based on the controversial Canadian psychologist and author Jordan Peterson.

“We based that character on this insane man, Jordan Peterson, who is this pseudo-intellectual hero to the incel community,” Wilde said.

She further explained the incels as a community of “disenfranchised, mostly white men, who believe they are entitled to sex from women”.

“They believe that society has now robbed them – that the idea of feminism is working against nature, and that we must be put back into the correct place,” Wilde added.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119594271#Comment_119594271

He is getting glowing reviews for My Policeman, musicians can act well too given a good role, Cher is an Oscar winner Lady Gaga a nominee etc.,

speedboatchase

Controversy sells. If you scroll down a bit here, you'll see that the movie's opening weekend is tracking upwards by 19% compared to the week before: https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-box-office-forecast-amsterdam-and-lyle-lyle-crocodile/

Now, all it will need is to be a good movie and have generous word of mouth.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119594271#Comment_119594271

It was the other way around, they only met when they started working on the film. The relationship came after the casting.

In fairness to him, he's a decent actor.

jj880

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119608802#Comment_119608802

Fair enough. Most reports say she picked him specifically for the role but that there was nothing going on before that.

As for his acting. Maybe I haven't seen enough of his roles. He was decent in Dunkirk but I think a leading role like this will be a better indicator. Early screenings have critics saying his accent is all over the place and his acting wooden. We shall see.

Spon Farmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119525690#Comment_119525690

Day-Lewis had someone break his nose so he would know what it was like so I don’t know if he is “normal” ;) but you are correct that they are professional and courteous to those around them. And you never hear of them causing drama or problems.

santana75

Saw this earlier and I thought that it started really well but it just became boring and repetitive. Felt like it was 3 hours long but I was surprised to see its running time at just about 2hours.....not a good sign. Florence pugh is very good(as expected) Harry styles is grand, no problem with his acting, he does a good job. It's basically the stepford wives, only not nearly as good. The cinematography is excellent, this film looks amazing but when the cinematographer is the MVP it doesn't really say great things about the movie as a whole.

johnny_ultimate

You often see complaints online that even revealing a film has a twist is a spoiler. But Don't Worry Darling is so relentlessly and overtly building up towards its eventual reveal that it unbalances and upsets absolutely everything. From its opening scenes, this is nearly exclusively driven by the fact that 'this sinister world has a secret to be revealed!', which makes for a frustrating watch as the film slowly makes its way towards the inevitable. Making matters worse, the reveal itself is familiar and silly and (in execution) rather nonsensical, bringing to mind several other films and TV shows. Naming them does constitute a spoiler of sorts so...

Spoiler Warning

like The Truman Show, The Matrix and Black Mirror's San Junipero with its 'character stuck inside a simulation' reveal. All of them are significantly better than this. As a matter of fact, the comparisons to The Truman Show (a film that crucially doesn't treat its premise like some big dramatic secret) are apt well before the twist is revealed... and it's not flattering to this film.

In the 90 minutes leading up to that, what you have instead is a fairly shapeless, repetitive beast that tries to capture the dark side of suburban conformity without having anywhere near the substance or stylistic chops of, say, Blue Velvet. There's not much in the way of flow, and even the nice production design flourishes don't really soar. I'd perhaps even go as far as saying this is a film that aesthetically works better in trailer form than a two-hour film.

The one saving grace, to the surprise of no-one, is Florence Pugh - an actress so naturally talented and ever-committed to the task at hand that she can make just about anything semi-tolerable, whether that's a mediocre MCU film or a mess like this. Harry Styles doesn't stand a chance in scenes with her. The film does briefly come to life during a dinner-table argument between Pugh and Pine's characters, but that's a short bit of relief in an otherwise thoroughly unremarkable film. I liked Booksmart a lot, so a shame this one doesn't work at all.

speedboatchase

I agree with Johnny above. No idea how to use spoiler tags here.

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At a certain point, you just say 'yeah, yeah, let's just get to the twist already'. And there is probably a clever way to illustrate the twist, but it is rushed and utterly lacking context. If we're led to believe that Harry Styles' character is a male feminist type who feels put upon by society and emasculated by being unemployed and his wife being the breadwinner, I could understand the idea of a patriarchal simulation appealing to him. But the idea that it would involve actual, living partners (e.g. Pugh) is a bridge too far. Technically, the simulation could potentially exist one day and be legal, so long as no one is coerced. So why would its - seemingly extremely well-funded organisation - risk the idea that participants might sometimes trick their partners into joining without their consent? Seemingly, Pugh's character is presumed dead or missing. Is no one investigating this? Where could he have initially hid her body? How does he feed her during the simulation? Why does a VR-style simulation require people to travel to physical locations to log out? Why is this likely heavily surveillance world not intervening when Pugh had mild attempts at suicide? Why would a woman be interested in Pine's character's worldview - would Bunny really want to be part of a world where she minds fake children 24/7? Why did Pine's wife - real or otherwise kill him? Why would getting stabbed in the world kill you in real life, but only if you're a man? Also... what was with the plane crash?

It seems extremely ill-thought-out and the ending hints at a Truman Show-style 'what next? ambiguity' doesn't work because we don't have enough context about the real world. They should have gone with a Gone Girl structure IMO, where they split the movie down the middle and halfway through show us Styles being radicalised online and taking the steps he did, then propel us to the third act.

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That being said, Pugh is excellent as ever and Pine is extremely charismatic, as always.

jj880

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cezanne

Streamed it last night its a plagurism of several movies and basically a movement where beta males rise up again and make their clever wives submissive. Florence carries the movie all by herself and Olivia Wilde gives me the creeps, another poor Harry being abused by an American narc in real time. Run Harry run! I dont recommend this film, its a waste of time.

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119608802#Comment_119608802

Is he? In what? He wasnt exactly brilliant in Dunkirk...

johnny_ultimate

Mod note: No piracy talk please. Thanks.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119538154#Comment_119538154

Well.... I SUPPOSE he's a bigger draw. He is the bigger star. Even if it is not related to movies. There should absolutely not be any pay disparity between genders but these are usually determined by how much an individual will bring viewers into the movie. I believe Terrence Howard was paid more money than Robert Downey Junior in Iron Man 1 as he was very high profile after "Hustle and Flow" and others.

However, insanely, Scarlett Johansson "only" got 400K for Iron Man 2. That is mental as she was one of the highest profile actors around (Male of Female) at the time and was heavily promoted. Of course many take a "lower" initial payout as they know they are potentially on to a long running cash cow and will only negotiate up.

While Florence Pugh is fantastic (She TOTALLY stole the Black Widow movie) she wouldn't be as huge a draw as Stiles. As an average punter in the street who she is and many will not know her (Crime) but EVERYONE knows Harry Stiles (Again, Crime)

As someone else said, the drama around it seems to be overshadowing the movie itself. Which, by accounts, it pretty "Meh"

cezanne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119677090#Comment_119677090

Florence carried the whole film on her own everyone else was colourless.

Shelga

Am I the only one who really enjoyed this?? I liked the story, didn’t predict the ending, thought Pugh was great, excellent production design, gorgeous costumes, even a car chase!

Ok, Harry Styles wasn’t amazing, and I didn’t buy the excuse for his British accent (which doesn’t even sound British anymore, he has that awful mid Atlantic twang), but he definitely wasn’t terrible and was there to magnify Pugh’s performance, which is what he did.

I really wasn’t thinking about all of the on-set drama while watching it, and I think it’s a shame that that has detracted from Wilde’s sophomore directorial effort.

Nigel Fairservice

I saw this last night. It was an OK watch but I wouldn't be rewatching it again anytime soon. It was an interesting concept but thought it left too many unanswered questions. The performances were good and carried the movie more so than the plot. Pugh and Pine were very good. Harry Styles was decent enough as well I thought. I found the scene where Olivia Wilde manhandled her husband out of the way pretty funny!

JP Liz V1

Gemma Chan's Shelley was the best most interesting character for me, it needed her more imho

Decuc500

Thought this was awful. A very smug and self serious film. 'Indie' movie making by numbers. Not even Florence Pugh could save it.