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Green tea- quality difference?

  • 12-04-2022 03:59PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    So I drink green tea, maybe 3 cups a day. In Aldi it's well under a euro, for branded versions about €3 or thereabouts. Is there any difference in the quality/pick of the tea? My gut is saying no.

    Thanks,

    Pa.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭maninasia


    There won't be since it's all poor quality tea in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭maninasia





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    I drink tea from a small tea company based in the UK & honestly since having their green tea versus supermarket green tea I've noticed a huge difference in taste quality. That said, I don't mind the supermarket ones & if you like them, keep on with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Not sure if you mean poor taste or poor quality; if poor quality, why?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭maninasia


    That's a really great question , and what is a great taste in particular can be very subjective, but I will try to explain below what I mean. I've studied how to make tea so I know a bit about it.


    Because really good quality tea is usually hand picked from the tips of the tea plant at high altitude . The tips of the tea plant have less bitter compunds but packed full of polyphenols and theanine (one of chemicals that makes you feel calm) and caffeine (that gives you a little kick). The high altitude allows the leaves to grow slower and thicker. Will all be hand processed to avoid damaging the leaves.

    Then the same tea grown at lower altitude will still be excellent but not the top grade.

    The next level down will be machine cut whole tea leaves from a single harvest and hand processed .. Still far better than anything you will ever find in a supermarket

    Then the next level down would be mass produced green tea mixed from various farms and highly automated but keeping whole leaves .

    The the next level is highly processed and cut green tea into very small pieces for quick brewing (such as your Lyons or Barry's teabags).

    And so on. Even more than coffee, tea plant varieties , how they are grown, where are grown and processed can give very different flavours. Simply put you will never get very high quality green tea from a supermarketmass market brand at that price level . I'm not saying it's not drinkable, and enjoyable taste can be subjective , it's just like the difference between table wine and fine wine,or instant coffee and fresh brewed Arabica.

    In my opinion and those of many tea professionals , how to define good quality tea , is if you don't need to add sugar and it can brew for three- five minutes without being bitter, like good oolong tea, that could be a great tea. Because the tea grower and processor avoided introducing the bitter compounds into the tea leaves (which is why we need to add sugar and milk to poor quality black tea..It's too bitter otherwise ..Good quality tea is never instantly bitter).

    Fine loose leaf tea is more expensive but I recommend you try all the different loose leaf teas out there it's amazing to discover the very diverse world of pure loose leaf tea leaves. There's actually 7 major types of tea and not just Green Tea and Black Tea as most people are familiar with . It's not as expensive hobby as you may think.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭CrookedJack


    Great post, very informative. The only thing missing is some recommendations for different teas and where to get them - You could be starting us all off on our new hobby!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 WaveWatcher


    For sumerparket green tea my prefrence is the Numi range or Robert Roberts if Numi's not available. I'm not a fan of the Aldi or twinings brands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭2011abc


    Clearsprings organic Sencha loose leaf brewed in a basket . Water off the boil or you risk fishiness . ( Although boiling water will get the last bit of life from spent leaves if you’re a cheapskate like me . I sometimes ‘dilute’ this stuff with Aldi /Lidl cheap ‘powder bags’ . You can get 3-6 cups from a quarter full ( or less ?) basket .Cold green tea from the fridge is still my morning kickstart despite becoming a ‘coffee guy’. Better than water for hydration and detox .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭maninasia


    I live in one of the world greatest tea producing nations . As such I generally only drink local direct from the tea farmer and processor sourced tea, you could say it's single origin tea , from a spring , winter or summer harvest , so it's a bit hard to recommend for you. Loose leave teas from a shop or specialized vendor are almost always going to be the best. Go into the shop , and look at the tea, smell the tea (fresh loose leaf tea smells incredible ), and even ask the owner to brew a sample or send you samples . There's no need to buy a large amount of any one tea. Just try out different ones and have fun and see what you like.

    Not a brand sold in a supermarket. Because the brand is trying to sell a mass market homogenised product that tastes the same every single time at a low price that consumers expect to buy for. That tea could have been harvested years before . Now there's some mid market brands that do what they do well , but they will never be as good as hand-picked hand processed single origin tea. And just like wine you'll get an exceptional tea one year and kind of mediocre the next due to the weather mostly. All tea growing regions have competitions where they select the finest teas of this year's season and variety.

    I'm always happy to talk tea . In the future I may be able to share some back in Ireland. I would love if Irish people could start to discover the amazing world of tea out there. Most Irish people think Barry's tea is the be all and end all and it's just the tip of the iceberg. Or rather the over processed dusty remnants of assam tea leaves .😁

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,856 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    In my limited experience, Gunpowder green tea from Asian shops tends to be nicer than the big brand green teabags.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ash97


    I cant' find good tea lately too..



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    I’ve started drinking a lot of different teas lately. Reason, stopped drinking caffeine, almost 100% but still drink decaf coffee and some black tea.


    Finding good teas? I buy from both Wall & Keogh in Dublin and just started buying from Loose Leaf teas in Cork. I have a fair collection now 😀, rooiboos, black, green, herb etc etc. Both above do online and have stunning collections.


    I don’t do tbags. Never have……never will. 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    I'm based in Galway (and the OP). I've moved from green to white tea, drink Clipper organic white tea. There is a herbalist, whom I am planning on going to for loose tea https://www.drclareapothecary.com/

    In the evenings I drink chamomile tea; it's meant to help you sleep well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭NiceFella


    A friend gave me a tea called gynostemma loose leaf and it was a lovely caffeine free, very calming and had a subtle natural sweetness to it. I had a look around for it in different places with no look. Can be got online but it's pricey because it has to travel far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭2011abc


    Again Clearsprings loose leaf Organic Sencha Green tea is my firm favourite .Cheaper stuff just dust not leaves and may be far more likely to contain toxins .White tea higher in caffeine and made me shake like a leaf!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭dingdangdoo22


    Was just looking on their website doesnt look like they deliver to Ireland? You in the UK?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    Any further recommendations where I can get good green tea? (preferably decaf).

    I bought some in Tesco, horrible!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    Do I have to buy this online, or any Irish stores sell it?

    Is there a decaf version?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭2011abc


    yes and no



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭2011abc


    https://evergreen.ie/products/clearspring-organic-sencha-japanese-green-tea?variant=41385068560575&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD7Ee_zPc67aONmBybq0F4IrkOePG&gclid=CjwKCAiAiOa9BhBqEiwABCdG88nfT2TPbsLtHy1D4SMMNV4b6RPdZ1rizelugieMMblCwjJH0kxPzBoC9ZkQAvD_BwE



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Hi all,

    I'm the OP. Just as a FYI in case you don't know white tea is meant to be better than green so it's what I drink now

    White tea contains the highest degree of antioxidants because it's the less processed tea, followed by green tea and then black.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭2011abc


    I find the caffeine levels in white tea sky high , worse than the strongest coffee .I brew a batch of green tea in a jug to last about a week by steeping the leaves - maybe a dessert spoon ful in a basket and making it cup after cup with hotter water for longer periods as the leaves ‘weaken’ .If you leave it brew from fresh leaves for more than a few minutes in the ‘early’ phase it gets very ‘jittery’ with caffeine .This stuff is a great start to the day cold from the fridge but made with decent organic leaves not Aldi floor sweepings / ‘dust’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,058 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Big fan of this but cant find it anywhere

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    https://www.asiamarket.ie/yamamotoyama-sencha-green-tea-bag-16x2g.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,058 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    I bought some "Gunpowder" green tea of the Asian store.

    All quality green tea is loose so one would need a defuser to prepare it

    Haven't tried it yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭prosaic


    I got 10 year aged raw Pu'er in China. Comes in a pressed disc of dried leaves.

    Closest thing to a high, without drugs. Sublime and delicious.



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