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ATCEUC warning: Polish airspace may soon be closed due to lack of ATC staff.

  • 10-04-2022 12:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Unregistered Users


    We have warned the European Institutions, we have warned CANSO and the

    airlines, that PANSAs was forcing its ATCOs out of the company by destroying

    the safety culture and safety management system, drawing disciplinary

    consequences against employees reporting irregularities, bullying the

    personnel and unilaterally cutting ATCOs’ wages even by 70%

    Source: http://www.atceuc.org/uploads/docs/20220328-pr-on-poland-issue.pdf

    Polish news state that 175 out of 208 ATC staff decided not to sign new, "downgrading" contracts, some of them already ceased their employment, rest of the contracts will expire later this month.

    Many flights are already delayed due to insufficient staff, here's a screenshot of live WAW arrivals taken just a while ago:

    Just a heads-up, some holiday plans may be ruined if they not find a quick solution, which is unlikely.



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Margaret Clarke


    Shıt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,971 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    Breaking news: temporary agreement has been reached.

    In brief - current conditions will remain the same for a while, in the meantime negotiations will continue until (hopefully) permanent solution's agreed.

    Deadline - 10th of July 2022.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭AnRothar


    Part of the difficulties for Poland can be traced back to the downing of MAS17 in 2014.

    This resulted in the rerouting of many Aircraft flying to the far East.

    Historically they tended to fly over Poland/Ukraine and on.

    ATC funding has a structural weaknesses for historical reasons.

    In very simplistic terms used charges are weight based and linked to distance flown.

    Typical Aircraft overflying Poland to the far East were A330/B777 etc on long sectors.

    While some traffic did recover for them it was typically A320/B737 on short European/domestic routes.

    Double hit to the funding and locked in to their charges based on EU regulations things have been interesting for them.

    Interesting times.

    Side note ATC service providers have been looking for a different funding model to be agreed but not a lot has happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭3d4life


    Seeing the topic of funding ATC reminds me of



    Of course its old, not really on topic, and very naughty of me to post it.

    Still, I think its funny........I hope you do too :)



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