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Deeply religious burglar

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  • Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    two things

    1) if she is so religious give her an old testement or islamic punishment for theft

    2) how much cash do restaurant staff leave in their jacket pockets in the staff room! i hope all of it declared for tax purposes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭French Toast


    219 previous convictions at 31 years old works out at roughly 17 convictions every single year since she turned 18.

    Fúcking joke tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I think this must be the first time I have ever seen CONSECUTIVE mentioned in a prison sentence. Good on ya judge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,880 ✭✭✭✭gmisk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,909 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I really hate when solicitors bring up this thing about having a tough childhood, lots of people had a difficult time of it growing up and have gone on to be hardworking decent members of society.

    219 convictions at 31 years of age is an absolute disgrace, she obviously has no interest in turning her life around.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Great to see women entering traditionally male jobs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭Immortal Starlight


    Deeply Religious. Ffs is there actually anyone who believes this bull.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Good to see the old “220 strikes and you’re out” system working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3


    Yea we really need to clamp down on these scum bags on minimum wage and their shiìtty tips



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,663 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Looks up the address on google street view - Ah, that explains it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,880 ✭✭✭✭gmisk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,643 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I don't think you needed to look at the address on street view to figure that out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,817 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Ah, yeah... I see. A 'deeply religious' area.

    They like caravan holidays too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,663 ✭✭✭✭retalivity



    Why the hell was he charged with handling stolen property and not theft? As clear as day what went on there...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭mikethecop


    Unfortunately its what you c prove not wat you know ,

    as his solicitor Aoife McNicholl was no doubt would have been quick to point out , just 41 previous in any case , barely a criminal by Irish judicial standards



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,880 ✭✭✭✭gmisk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭AnMuinteoirOg


    Cause both charges carry the same penalty and handling is easier to prove in court.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    This is one of those cases that makes you wish they'd release mugshots of offenders in this country. The public should know what this yoke looks like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭Ham_Sandwich


    probably addiction issues or mental health hope she gets the help she needs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,880 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    219 previous convictions....I think she is well beyond helping



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭KieferFan69


    She may have only been in court a few times really, getting several convictions each time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,129 ✭✭✭kirving


    On the flip side, the 219 convictions are related to crimes which...

    1) were actually investigated

    2) she was identified as a suspect and arrested for

    3) she either admitted (which would be silly), or...

    4) the DPP assessed that there was sufficient evidence to even bring to trial

    5) it was assessed by a jury that the likelihood of her committing the crime was beyond all reasonable doubt.

    There are a *lot* of steps to actually get a conviction, so it stands to reason that she has committed many multiples of the 219 she was convicted for.


    A side story....

    I'm from not too far from there. A few years ago the local soccer club had a kids day, with bouncy castle, or slide, I can't remember which.

    So all the 5-10 year olds took off their shoes to go and play. A load of kids shoes were stolen, and my sister walked home barefoot.

    Noone was ever caught as far as I know, but a few characters were seen making off in the direction of that address. Adding 2 + 2 here....



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well, hold her to her own high standards then and add a few years for utter hypocrisy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,422 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Have you ever sat in on some court cases?

    I'm not joking when I say the judges don't even lift their heads to look at them. They know them all.

    Some people think the whole "broken childhood" malarky is exaggerated. Trust me, it isn't. All the legal aid solicitors say the exact same thing.

    I would urge anyone who has the time to head down to the courts, sit in for an hour or two in the gallery, and see for yourself. One after the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,763 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Those who have killed a burglar in their home should get some class of a MBE type award from Michael D, it should be a yearly event. If the burglar has more than 10 previous convictions the award should include a brand new Toyota Yaris for services to people who wish to live peacefully in their home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Yaris, the car of peace.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    To play devil's advocate here, she likely genuinely believes that she is praying for the victims and that in some ways is helping, because "God" will provide for the people that she has stolen from. People with substance abuse problems often feel like passengers in their own bodies, the petty crimes they carry out to feed the habit being something that they're being forced to do by their illness. It's doesn't excuse it, but from what we know about addiction it makes some sense.

    As a traveller she'd have a strong indoctrination and thus the belief that wishing really hard for something can work.

    Aside from this, it goes to show why we need to decouple this notion that someone having religion or praying regularly in any way makes them a better or more contrite person. "Having a strong faith" is synonymous with "Tries to do good all the time", but history tells us this is nonsense. Some of the worst crimes have been carried out by the most devout.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Because she sees herself as doing nothing wrong and is entitled to thieve from people who have more than her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,422 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Hope the next judge throws the book bible at her



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭BattleCorp1


    It was the restaurant owner's money as far as I can tell from the original article. Probably takings from the restaurant. Foolish to leave that much money in a jacket but hey ho, they are unlikely to do that again.

    Judge Smyth said none of the money was recovered and one restaurant owner had found it difficult to have €1,500 stolen at the time.




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