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New Service - Check NCT History Online

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,523 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Why not just make all the info available without seller needing to release anything? It's hardly a GDPR issue if you failed the last NCT because the near side parking bulb was blown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,479 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I'm sorry for being cynical but I think I will just sit here with popcorn and wait to see how they will manage to make something straight forward into a total mess. This is Ireland after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    It's very typically Irish in how they've done it.


    It's like they took the UK model and said, how can we over design it and make it less useful.


    It's only to be accessable by the present owner/ keep, not accessable by anyone. That's what all the spiel about it says the owner or seller can share the info with you "if they wish". It's not publically accessable.


    That takes the good out of it, they dont have to disclose it. Now i suppose you can opt to not buy a car if the seller doesn't disclose it but it's still not as useful or transparent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭User1998


    Completely agree, at first I thought it would be similar to the UK model but reading it again it can only be accessed by the registered owner. Seems a bit pointless if thats the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,544 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm



    "The change would also allow prospective buyers of second hand cars to view the information if the seller was willing to share it with them.”

    “If the seller doesn't comply with his side, buyers are advised to shop elsewhere.”


    Another half assed attempt.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    Once again, we take a great concept, turn it on its head and make a complete mess of it. I bet it is all in the name of GDPR that this system is being setup the way it is.

    The UK MOT site is great in this regard. Enter a registration number and it gives you the historical data. No hoops to jump through or messing around. I've used it numerous times to check out prospective purchases before contacting a seller. Looking at the way the Irish system will be done, I'll have to contact each seller for access to the info!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    They've actually taken great pride in saying there's no GDPR issues with the Irish one as it will not have any of the owners details, just the specifics on the car. So why then, have they made it so un accessable?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭ants09


    Since they are not releasing the information except to the owner of the motor vehicle then there is no GDPR issues.


    If they released the information to potential buyers or the general public then there would be GDPR issues


    Under GDPR "Personal data are any information which are related to an identified or identifiable natural person"

    "For example, the telephone, credit card or personnel number of a person, account data, number plate, appearance, customer number or address are all personal data."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Thanks for explaining GDPR to me. Never came across it before.


    There'd be no data breach if you could just enter a reg and see the cars history without the owners name and address attached. You'd think that'd be something simple to nail down.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    I can currently log onto the NCT page, tap in a Reg and get the due date for the next NCT, so why not let me access the history of that car?

    What info will be made available? Date of last NCT, mileage, pass/fail, reason for fail - plus the same for all past NCTs.

    I could just as easily tap the Reg into a car purchasing site and be given a (low ball) value for the car - which is just as intrusive info.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    As is usual people overuse GDPR. THere is no GDPR issue here, but it wont stop people rabbitting on that there is.

    GDPR is the blanket answer for everything these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    What useful information will you get from accessing the NCT history? A lot of people with older cars will send it in to see what needs fixing and if it's worth fixing. If someone spots a loose ball joint on a 2 year old car and replaces it you'll never know, if some one replaces the ball joint after a NCT fail it'll have a 2 year newer ball joint. The issue is still resolved for the buyer.

    If it failed and then passed the car is good to go, you still need to do your own checks same as you would when buying a 1 year old car. Someone could crash and badly repair the 1 year old car, there's no way for you to know if they don't go through insurance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    I guess the James May of this world would be interested in reading old nct’s for light bed time reading.

    knocking one out on a fail dangerous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    It could help on a potential purchase of a second hand car. Looking at the NCT history could give you an idea of the condition of the car and give you the mileage of it down through the years to see how heavily it has been used. From that point of view, I can see how handy it would be and have used the equivalent MOT system in the UK when buying from there previously. The information was very useful.



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