Value an Audi A6 Quattro

quenching

A relative needs to sell a car for cash, not trading it in or buying a new car. Does not want buyers arriving to the house so it’ll be to a garage or a car buying agent. But a vague idea of value would be useful before we start asking for offers.

141 Audi A6 Quattro saloon, 35k miles, 3l diesel (I think), metallic grey, beige leather interior, automatic. Lots of extras (no specifics), full Audi service history, 1 owner. Looks new.

Donedeal or Carzone don’t help much as I can’t find any Quattro versions. I have a vague recollection that it was about €70k new, but could be wrong here.

Any advice on value etc.would be very much appreciated.

I would say somewhere in the region of €20-€25k. Miles are very low but 35k miles in 8 years of driving could cause issues with DPF etc as diesels need to be driven.

You won't have any bargaining power selling the car to a garage or agent, the price they offer is generally the best you'll get. I'd recommend using the usual Zucar to get a valuation and then if your serious, call into the nearest Audi main dealer to you and have a chat with them.

It's a cracking car, but too high a value to sell privately and some people may be put off with the 3L engine as we are moving towards hybrid and smaller petrol engines.

bazz26

Upload some photos and details onto the likes of Zucar who offer an online valuation to buy it from you. Now the likes of their valuation will be close to it's trade value but that is what you will most likely get offered by a garage to buy it from you. If you are happy with their valuation then it's a straight forward process to sell it them.

I'd also disagree with the previous post about being too high a value to sell privately or people being put off by a 3.0 litre engine. Yes your pool of potential buyers is low but it's too expensive to import cars like these anymore from the UK due to Brexit so what's already here will still interest that same pool of people. And people buying hybrids and small petrol engines were most likely never interested in a 3.0 litre car anyway.

quenching

Thanks folks, I’ll see what Zucar etc. say but ease of transaction is important so they might be the best bet. €20k or thereabouts seems reasonable.

Buddy Bubs

I've a feeling in the current market that cars previously not suitable for private sale will now have interest from the public. No evidence of this, just a hunch.

I have a 2014 S Line A6 with low mileage, although higher than this one at 60k miles or 100k kms. Looking on DD there are very few even with my mileage, let alone 35k miles. Mine is the 2.0tdi

I'd be hopeful of high teens if I was to put mine up for sale now, 17.5 to 18k kind of money. A 3.0tdi quattro will have fewer suitors but wait for the right buyer and 20k region should be achievable. You didn't say S Line or not, I'm basing my valuation on it being S Line.

unkel

I sold a 2014 car yesterday privately for mid to late 30s (very close to my asking price). Cash, no trade in. The car had been for sale for just over 2 weeks. I had got offers from the trade, but the highest was only €31k. The trader needs to put bread on the table, you pay them for their service, that's the price for your convenience.

kirving

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118644776#Comment_118644776

To be fair I don't think that's representative of most private sales (Tesla, right? Search is rubbish).

I sold a 132 high mileage (but FSH) E-Class Estate in 2020. I bought it at a very good price so could afford to be lowest on carzone/donedeal, but it was a difficult private sale, and that was under €15k. People buying premium cars tend to want the perceived security of a dealer sale, but in reality a 6 month warranty outside of a main dealer is hardly worth the paper it's written on in many case.

3.0, Quattro, low miles will help of course, but you're up against it selling a premium car privately.

unkel

Yes that was a Tesla, why would that make a difference? Still a highish value private cash sale of an oldish out of warranty car

Now obviously electric cars are in demand (so these are expensive) and very few people would still want to buy a diesel (so these are cheap), but I can't see any other reason why it wouldn't be comparable in this context

Just to piggyback on my comment, I really do think you'll get a competitive offer off an audi main dealer. I've sold a car on behalf of a friend to a main dealer just before christmas and they came straight in with an attractive offer, checked over the car and the deal was done in a day.

bazz26

If Audi dealers are anything like BMW dealers they will want to buy that car about 8k below what they want to sell it on for. They want to make as much margin on each car they sell these days because they are selling very little new due to chip shortages.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646884#Comment_118646884

Diesels are not cheap just yet! Will happen over next few years but they've never been more expensive than they are today.

Casati

If it’s the same car you mentioned on other threads then you advertised it as being in warranty??? Hopefully you told the buyer it doesn’t have warranty

My advise to OP is to list it for sale and wait for garages to start calling. I took this strategy with a higher value car last year and ended up playing traders off each other. They will be mad for that car as it low miles and due to new VRT and Duty it’s impossible to import.

Signore Fancy Pants

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User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118646884#Comment_118646884

Diesel is still way more popular than electric. And will be for a few more years to come. Especially in the used market.

Tesla is just an out liar

Jimmy113

Does anyone know if an Audi A6 2014 SLine Ultra has a timing chain or a timing belt?

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118655669#Comment_118655669

LOL no it isn't. Even the thickest people know at this stage electric is the only way forward. Depreciation on diesel cars is going to be brutal, now nobody wants them any more (and they could very well be banned from being used near people)

bazz26

The current used car market would disagree with you. Used cars including diesel are selling for similar money to what the same cars were worth 2 or 3 years ago and sell almost as quickly as they become available. I keep hearing nobody wants diesel cars anymore from certain quarters but I've yet to see evidence of these unwanted cars parked up in their droves. If anyone knows where all these unwanted diesel cars are laying around then let me know as I could make a fortune selling them on.

unkel

Depreciation on diesels is going to be pretty spectacular. We'll talk again in 3-4 years time. Don't say nobody warned you ;-)

bazz26

We could be all riding horse and carts in 3-4 years time the way the world is going. Nobody predicted a pandemic or major conflict on our door steps 3 or 4 years ago.

kirving

Tesla have a very committed and loyal fanbase, still have a cool factor unmatched by many other brands, and an all too necessary, but nevertheless excellent warranty and dealer support by all accounts. They are a niche that a A6 is not.

I think depreciation is going to be horrible on *any* car bought in the past 12 months in Ireland.

(I'm absolutely disgusted that I didn't take out a loan and buy a second PHEV to sell on for a big profit, but trying to privately sell a premium car in a stable market just before Brexit was difficult and it worried me)

mk7r

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118648311#Comment_118648311

An Audi main dealer will have little to no interest in a car that old.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118760294#Comment_118760294

I said diesel is still more popular and will be used for a few more years to come. I didn’t mention the future which I obviously agree is electric.

The latest stats I can find is that EV’s only account for 8.5% of new car sales so clearly diesel is still more popular.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118761158#Comment_118761158

Only in Ireland. People are a bit late here to the program. In other more forward thinking countries in Europe, the uptake is far higher. In Norway about 80% of all new cars are pure electric.

And even in diesel loving Ireland, diesel sales are down from 75% of all new cars to just over 20% this year. I predict no more than 10% for 2023 (and good luck to them when resale time comes)

But I guess that is all well off topic for this thread, apologies!

bazz26

Is this the same Norway who's GDP is heavily made up from selling oil and gas to the rest of the world?

As for new cars sales, most new car sales are down this year because of supply chain issues and the pandemic. They simply cannot be got. We still imported over 100,000 used cars from the UK last year with the majority being diesel. That has also dried up now because of Brexit. And yes new diesel sales are down but that is normality returning to the market where people were encouraged to buy them through government taxation policies.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118655669#Comment_118655669

Is this in your peer group or in Ireland, Europe etc...?

Montage of Feck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118760294#Comment_118760294

There are very few desirable used electric or hybrid cars available second hand reasonably priced.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118762028#Comment_118762028

There are no desirable used diesel cars. Or new ones for that matter 😂

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118761930#Comment_118761930

I’m talking about the country we live in. Ireland. I’m not talking about Europe or Norway because it’s irrelevant.

Anyway this is all off topic. Sorry OP

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118760736#Comment_118760736

I was offered 20k for a 2014 a6 at very start of 2021 against a brand new a6. He rang 2 or 3 traders and offered me that a few mins later. Now it had a bit of discount padding built into that but he was very interested.

Buddy Bubs

I posted in this thread a few weeks ago and went out looking at cars myself this morning, bmw 530e which I've been flirting with changing to for a couple of years now. So my own 2014 Audi A6 is potentially up for sale now.

Its 2014 A6 S Line Black edition automatic with 70000 miles or 123000 kms. Great condition only thing that sets it apart really is I upgraded the standard screen to 9 inch and added android software which really does add to it.

I did the online valuation with zucar and got offered 14k. Offered 15.5k on a trade in today leaving me with 19.5k cost to move up 3 years to a 530e that I think is reasonably priced.

Does anyone think I can go better with private sale? Going by donedeal I think i can, but not sure if they are dreamers or not on there....

Below is the best priced private sale of a similar car, 30000kms more but pretty comparable really. There's another a little bit pricier. Other cars either much higher miles or manual or SE models so I've excluded them.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2014-audi-a6-sline-black-edition-ultra/30013085

Dealers all asking over 20k and I don't think there's much wiggle room with them these days.

bazz26

Have you tried the online valuation from Joe Duffy BMW? Last year I got offered 27k for my car from both Zucar online and Frank Keane BMW over the phone but got offered 30k from Joe Duffy online. Same cars were advertised at around 35k/36k on forecourts.

I don't think 19.5k is that reasonable to only move 3 years to be honest. That is still costing you 6.5k per year which is more than what it was costing me a few years back well before Brexit and Covid came into play. We are being told used car prices are high because of lack of supply yet it seems to only apply on dealer forecourt sticker prices rather than what they want to buy them for. Dealers seem to want their bread buttered on both sides.

I'd try putting it up on donedeal and see who bites.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118773509#Comment_118773509

What would you consider decent in this class of car per year? 5k? It's crossing into a new generation too which usually results in an extra bump in price.

bazz26

Just remember while you are crossing into a newer generation, it's still a 4 year old car.

I've no ideal what you should be paying as there is no little value in the market at present but spending 19.5k to go from an 8 year old car to a 4 year old car just sounds expensive to me. I think current popularity with plug in hybrids is inflating prices even more so and dealers are taking advantage. Hard to know how long that popularity will last as they really are a stop gap and people rushing out to buy them in the current fuel crisis as a more fuel efficient car to their current one maybe only kicking the can a bit down the road imo.

kirving

I think PHEV's have their place for some, based on fuel cost savings alone, even disregarding subsidies.

But including subsidies, and VRT discount when importing front the UK, I always found PHEV's incredibly overpriced on the Irish second hand market, just in comparison to ICE. €35k for a '19 530e is about €10k more expensive than you could have imported a '17 for in 2020. I know it's different market and they're now €65k new (!!!) , and that info isn't exactly helpful, but just to give some perspective on how crazy the second hand market is.

IMO, given that the second hand market eventually might (?) return closer to pre-Brexit and pre-Covid levels, how much would you lose on a €35k second hand in 3 years, vs a new model with a guaranteed minimum future value? I might not be insanely different and you have a new, warrantied car instead. Maybe worth considering?