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Surrogacy parenting ?

  • 15-02-2022 1:20am
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭

    Listening to the radio this morning about Irish couples going out to the Ukraine for surrogacy parenting

    Can someone in a nutshell explain to me what that involves......does the father give a sperm donation and a Ukrainian woman gets pregnant through artificial insemination? or something to that affect?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa

    There's two types of surrogacy.

    First one is, gestational surrogacy, is where a couple's sperm and egg is taken and fertilised artificially, and then the embryo is implanted in to a surrogate woman. The surrogate carries the pregnancy, but she is not genetically related to the baby at all.

    The second, traditional surrogacy, is as you describe, the surrogate mother's egg is used, and she carries the pregnancy too. The egg is fertilised by the father's sperm. The baby is genetically related to the surrogate mother.

    In Ukraine, only gestational surrogacy is legal. Technically, gestational surrogacy can involve donor eggs and sperm, once neither belongs to the surrogate mother. But in Ukraine, the baby has to be genetically related to at least one of the intended parents. So you basically have to provide your own egg (with another donor's sperm), or your own sperm (with another donor's egg), or provide both. You can't use both donor egg and donor sperm. Also in Ukraine, surrogacy can only be done for heterosexual, married couples. So a single person or a gay couple can't go there to get a surrogate pregnancy. I assume there are other countries that have different rules.

    Here's a random example of one of the clinics:

  • Registered Users Posts: 24 col_keaney

    For Irish couples who have done gestational surrogacy abroad, can you recommend a clinic?

    or a good website providing info and recommendations for Irish (hetro) couples thinking about this route?

    Now that Ukraine is out (I assume), where do most people go?

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    to many people

  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Dally

    We went to the US. I can highly recommend the surrogate agency we worked with - IARC in Minnesota. My two kids are thanks to them, and they work with all types of families.

    Many of the staff have acted as surrogates themselves, and they put of lot of effort into creating a good match between the woman who has chosen to become a surrogate and the intended parents. And the agency is closely integrated with a specialised law firm who take care of the legal aspects (in the US).

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    That was singularly helfful. Thanks. If a single Irishman (heterosexual, if it matters) would like to have a child without having a woman with a right to the child in Irish law, what options does he have if Ukraine does not allow single men to use the surrogacy route?

    Has any other man in Ireland tried to have 100% legal right to a child as his own? If so, how did he do it? While I know Irishwomen who have gone this route, I know of no Irishmen who have done so. Can it be done legally in Ireland? If so, where? And what sort of money does it all cost? (it has to be cheaper than the gender discrimination that is an Irish divorce, losing rights to see your own child and the loss of your family home.)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa

    I'd say you'd want to obtain professional legal advice on this. Best of luck!