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What happens to the electricity contract when MPRN number is cancelled

  • 07-01-2022 1:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4


    I may get rid of the meter in an old house, and cancel the MPRN number. What happens to the delivery contract when the MPRN does not exist anymore? Is this a early exit fee reason or is it just without any further expense?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    If you have a fixed term contract with an energy supplier the terms of that contract would still apply. So if it has a minimum contract term and you are not over it yet you would be liable for any early exit penalties.

    There is a fee from ESB networks for disconnecting a supply from a premesis.

    Similarly if you want to get the supply reconnected at a future date there is a connection fee.

    Depending on how long the supply had been disconnected the hous wiring may have to be recertified and there may be a higher reconnection fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭Buffman


    You can't cancel your MRPN, it's unique and linked to the house and stays the same forever. Even if you got the power cut off, it still exists for reference by ESB Networks.

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 michaelthebrady


    I thought your MPRN was a constant one with your building but I have a scenario that shows that is wrong or it has changed recently.

    I recently bought a vacant property that had an MPRN that was terminated due to inactivity even though they did not disconnect the building (always had power). I tried to get an electricity account setup for that MPRN as it was still connected but told that I couldn't as the MPRN was terminated and I needed to request a new account and pay a new heft reconnection fee that also gets me a new MPRN. Anyone have similar experience recently?

    Post edited by michaelthebrady on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    from https://www.bonkers.ie/guides/gas-electricity/how-to-set-up-electricity-as-a-new-connection/

    Reconnecting power

    Less than six months - If you’re moving into a second-hand property that’s been without power for less than six months you should sign up with an energy supplier as they will help you to get your home reconnected and advise you what needs to be done. All you will need is your MPRN which the previous owners or estate agent should be able to provide you.

    Between six months and two years - If however it has been less than two years since your property has had electricity, you will still need to sign up with a supplier who will provide you with your MPRN. You are required however to have the wiring checked and certified by a registered electrical contractor who must then submit a completion certificate on your behalf. Reconnection works can then be commenced.

    More than two years - If a property has been without electricity for more than two years, homeowners must apply online via ESB Networks’ website to register a new connection.

    Customers should bear in mind that oftentimes a valid and up-to-date Electrical Completion Certificate (ECC) must be re-submitted to ensure wiring and connections are safe, but this is generally only required where homes have been disconnected for a long time.  This is also true whenever any new electrical work has been completed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 michaelthebrady


    Thanks @Xterminator and I have seen that. The scenario that I find myself in is a bit unique. In that the MPRN was terminated/inactivated in 2015 but that building was never disconnected. Now I am in a limbo in that I am not able to use the MPRN to get a new account with an electricity provider and I am been asked to create a new account with hefty new connection fees.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭JVince


    Did you check the fees?

    I had to recertify and get new meters for a property I purchased in 2021.

    It had been disconnected in 2015.

    The fee was about €80.

    It changed a few years ago when fees of 3k+ were the norm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 michaelthebrady


    @jvince as they are saying it is a new connection, I have quoted 3500 euros for a new connection. I would likely have to do a full rewire as well and new certification which would run into the thousands as well. Really trying to avoid it if at all possible....

    Here are the costs from their website: https://www.esbnetworks.ie/new-connections/newconndomestic/domestic-step11

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,029 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Esb networks may want an electrician to certify all is safe and modern, that may cost thousands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 michaelthebrady


    There is no doubt about that. ESB Networks want the sun, money and stars. I am being told now by the ESB that there was a live piece of the network on my property and they disconnected it (second disconnection). All I know is that the engineer told me the building was connected and the Meter had a reading that flashed up every few seconds and now it is dead. Any one ever come across this before by any chance?



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