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Why is it so hard to evict non-paying tenants in Ireland?

  • 06-01-2022 4:43pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 42 Driving gloves


    I have sympathy for people trapped renting, I really do. If I was a landlord I would always try to reach out to a tenant who is genuinely stuck, for example sick or lost job. These are the can’t pay people (genuine ones).

    What pisses me off is the won’t pay brigade.

    They won’t engage with the property owner, ie, landlord. They won’t pay a penny in rent, the law is on their side, they’ll wreck the property when you lose tens of Thousands.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭ houseyhouse


    The rules make it a very slow process. I would think the rules are there to protect people who are down on their luck in the ways that you mention e.g. sick, lost a job etc. I think most of us agree people should have some protection in times of crisis and that should happen regardless of whether the LL is a decent skin.

    Not sure how the law can be written to protect those in difficulty without being open to abuse. Maybe shortening the appeals process would make a difference? A system that allows LLs to actually get damages/arrears from former tenants would help LLs left in the lurch and perhaps also act as a disincentive?



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 Driving gloves


    Landlord should be able to stop damages from wages, single mothers allowance, disability, dole etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭ The One Doctor





  • Registered Users Posts: 42 Driving gloves


    Why can’t the landlord just storm the house and drag the people out?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 631 ✭✭✭ houseyhouse


    Eventually they can forcibly remove people but the process up to that point takes a couple of years, longer at the moment due to the Covid protections.



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 Driving gloves


    Those protections shouldn’t exist.

    Kick them the fucκ out



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 Driving gloves




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  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭ Hontou


    As a landlord for many years (and past tenant for many years), the problem for good tenants is the minority of bad tenants and the problem for good landlords is the minority of bad landlords. Horror stories of bad tenants overholding and damaging property increases the risk of property investment (along with other factors) which causes landlords to up rents. Equally, horror stories of bad landlords overcharging, not doing repairs and withholding deposits makes tenants believe landlords are evil and creates a bad relationship when there does not need to be one.

    To answer your question OP, bad tenants cannot be evicted because the government has created a system to devolve responsibility of bad tenants to the private landlord. The same minority of bad tenants wreck and don't pay their rent for council houses either. It should be a criminal offense to use or damage, but not pay for a product (accommodation). But in this country, the landlord trying to protect their product (accommodation) through eviction is the law breaker (criminal).



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