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Rewire and Access Points Suggestions

  • 08-12-2021 1:11pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭


    posted in BB forum but might be better here

    Ok getting the house rewired and asking Sparks to Hardwire the house for BB in each room

    Currently have the VM hub in modem mode and have TL link Archer c9 but want to upgrade this when all done

    I have access point in front room that serves a tv and nvidia shield. I have hardwired into office that serves work pc. However I want another point to serve spare tv and second shield in office. I have a 5 port ethernet network switch that I want to put into office so can use this for desktop tv and shield. I also have TP link wifi extender I use in the office for wifi on the phone which is ok

    I want to put a point in the kids room so they can hardwire laptop and pc. Also may have one in the kitchen as OH works from home at times and would like the option of hardwiring laptop.

    Anywhere else I can use wifi. I have the virgin modem bridged and using the Archer as it gets better wifi signals around the house. I want to do this again when house is rewired. I was looking at purchasing a Orbi mesh (2 initially) and put one upstairs and use this as main modem to replace the archer but not sure if overkill

    House is getting renovated so not sure when sparks will be in but want to communicate to them what we want so any tips appreciated and is orbi overkill or just stick with Archer

    Anything I should be requesting Sparks to do when rewiring , and any suggestions for new modem that will take in a lot of wifi around the house ie heating,lighting, alexa etc

    Thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    If you are going down the whole rewiring the house then forget about mesh systems, nothing beats hard wiring and AP back to a switch. These unifi Wifi6 APs are only €100 and are more than capable for home usage.

    https://eu.store.ui.com/products/unifi-ap-6-lite

    I have 5 APs in my new house 2 upstairs 2 downstairs and one on the patio for the summer...(in survived Barra)It might be over kill but I was doing a new build and we are working from home so I can get 400-500 mbs down from them from most corners of my house now. I have also put 2 CAT6 in each room and people have said it might be over kill but tbh in nearly every room I have something plugged into them so it was deffo worth my while doing this.

    So my advice is put in as many APs as you can, better off looking at them and put CAT6 in every room if possible. You will not regret it.

    Unifi have a design tool also that you can upload plans of your house and you can experiment in putting APs in rooms and it will calculcate the reception you get.

    Sorry if its all Unifi but I am up to my neck in their gear🤔

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭dam099


    Some of the Mesh systems on the market can also use wired backhaul so can serve as a cheaper and probably more user friendly alternative to the likes of the Unifi APs e.g. Deco M4/S4 runs about £99 on Amazon and when wired can do 300-400 Mbps which for most devices is probably adequate (maybe a laptop might need more if you do heavy downloads).

    The Unifi gear is great and I have switched to using it myself so can certainly recommend but its a little trickier for the average user as you need to run a controller (at least for setup). While that can be on a PC its still an additional step over more consumer oriented systems. If you are going for maximum performance, robustness and features though they are great choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Thanks for the replies

    Need to speak to the sparks on the options

    However did ask them for Ethernet access points in most rooms. However how would it work. I have the virgin router downstairs and it was bridged and was using a TP link as main modem. However I want to upgrade this and was looking at ones with plenty of ethernet ports.

    With the full wiring of the house would each ethernet plug require a separate wire down to the router or are they all linked

    We stream a lot an don't game but that will change in the future when kids get older so what would be the best router to get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    Yes, all Ethernet ports in rooms and extras(IP cam, AP) have to go back to the router, but through adequate switch for port availability. It should not be looping from one to another - wont work for Ethernet network

    ALL wires should go to designated central location where switch is/will be installed. From switch - one wire to router (wherever it is located), other to rest of devices. Some like this

    Ports on the router can be used for expansion in that particular room if needed.

    Smaller desk switches(5 port) can be used per room if required(aka daisy-chain), but if you plan in advance you should have dedicated CAT link for each static device (TV, gaming console, printer ). Consider double links in main locations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Thanks

    I have the main room where router is. I want one ethernet point in the kitchen and one in the office.

    At the moment the office is hard wired into the router.

    I then want 3 ethernet ports upstairs.

    For the office is it better to have that cable go straight into the router?

    I have a 5 point switch but might use this for the office as possible putting android box, 2nd TV and game console.

    Could I use something similar for other cables

    Also any suggestions for a router that also has WiFi 6



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    For the office is it better to have that cable go straight into the router?

    Makes no difference, at your network scale, as long all network devices(switches) and cables capable to run 1GB

    TP-Link TL-SG105S is simple and solid device.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Thanks any suggestions for a good router that has wifi 6. Looking at the tp link so I can use one app for all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    Sorry, not TP guy for WiFi. It's probably OK for most cases, but me on Cisco at the moment. Might consider Aruba as potential upgrade in the future



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Whenever folks think of a rewire with networking cable being thrown in, think about the central point which all the cables will be ran to. Think about relocating however the nets gets into you house to that location. Avoids having the ISP net device stuck under the telly/stairs and having to cable it up to a a comms rack in a (side)attic/office. Also having it centralised means you can have the net equipment on battery backup so if you have a power outage you don't lose internet in the middle of an important meeting from a laptop. Lots of other benefits too like a central point for a server of some sort, 'PiHole' like projects in future too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner




    The access into the house is behind TV so all hidden there and TV and android box hue hub all hidden behind it. If I put the router into the say hallway and then have internet port behind tv so as to plug in tv, android box and Hue hub to a switch and then have the home phone out in the hall plugged into router. Not sure if I can put it in office rather than hall but as its hidden behind tv its all good

    As for router will look around can understand Aruba but that maybe overkill and although would like to put them on ceiling not sure if I will be 'allowed' 😏

    Might just stick to TP link and see what the best there



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Yup, suck it and see - when folks are planning re-wiring and if you can't move the ISP equipment (maybe its a cable modem/tv box) you can still have any new net cable ran in house to a comms cab/area/rack and run 2-4 net cables from the ISP TV equipment to the comms central point. For most it would be overkill though and as you said, try the easier option for now and see how it goes



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